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Random question about the history of team numbers

Does anyone know if all the numbers are used to assign teams? I was told that number such as 911 and 666 were not used, but do not believe him. So, can anyone settle our debate ($5 is on the line)?
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

seems logical that 666 would not be seeing as all of the negative connotations that go along with it. and it would sound odd to be hearing people chant 9 11.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

You could prob figure this out by going to thebluealliance.net or wiki.chiefdelphi.com
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

A simple visit to thebluealliance.net says no to both. They were never teams.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

not necessarily, what if the teams disbanded before 2006? then thebluealliance.net wouldnt have them
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

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A simple visit to thebluealliance.net says no to both. They were never teams.
yes, I went to thebluealliance.net but wasn't sure if that means they were never a team or not a team within the past 3 years (which is as far back as bluealliance goes)
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yes, I went to thebluealliance.net but wasn't sure if that means they were never a team or not a team within the past 3 years (which is as far back as bluealliance goes)
True, i forgot when that was started.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

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A simple visit to thebluealliance.net says no to both. They were never teams.
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not necessarily, what if the teams disbanded before 2006? then thebluealliance.net wouldnt have them
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You could prob figure this out by going to thebluealliance.net or wiki.chiefdelphi.com
Using the team list would be a more reliable source.

666: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....event_type=FRC
911: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....event_type=FRC

FIRST has no data for either. Just change the team name in the URL to get the data you need.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

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Using the team list would be a more reliable source.

666: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....event_type=FRC
911: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....event_type=FRC

FIRST has no data for either. Just change the team name in the URL to get the data you need.
There is also no page for 3 and 15, just to name a few.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

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Using the team list would be a more reliable source.

666: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....event_type=FRC
911: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....event_type=FRC

FIRST has no data for either. Just change the team name in the URL to get the data you need.
Indeed, the entire TBA information database scrapes data off of the FIRST website and has doneso since ~Summer 2007, so if they don't have it we don't have it. Although FIRST does include disbanded teams for award / attendance purposes, they are sometimes unreliable on data (Team 1547, Waldo, did not win Regional Woodie Flowers @ Israel in 2006 - 1574 did). So their data should be taken with a grain of salt for details, but for overall team existence, ought to be fine.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

I'm not sure about 911, but there was never a 666. Given the lack of usfirst.com page for 911, I would tend to think there was never a 911 either. 3 and 15 can be explained for the fact there are no pages for teams that were defunct before around 2002ish (not sure exact year when current FIRST incarnation of TIMS data was displayed on FIRST website). Teams like 225, 616, and 510 who have become defunct recently still have pages.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

Team 1337 isn't on there, despite rumors that it was in Germany.

I find it odd, however that there is no 1338 listed. Does that mean they disbanded without winning any awards?
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

The FIRST website does not have data for teams that they consider disbanded (I believe the criteria is inactive for at least three years). For example, team 72, the original FIRST team in North Carolina, is not in FIRST's database anymore. In fact, you'll notice that there are a huge number of low team numbers for which the FIRST database has no data.
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

There was no information about a team 666 or 911 on FIRSTwiki
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Re: Random question about the history of team numbers

I looked that up on the first wiki one day and actually came across this article. http://www.firstwiki.net/index.php/Team_number If you read the last line it says that team numbers 666 and 911 were never assigned.
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