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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

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Are you going to do recreate the rankings after all the regionals are done and before the finals in Atlanta?
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Unread 01-04-2008, 18:12
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

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Are you going to do recreate the rankings after all the regionals are done and before the finals in Atlanta?
I could re-do them once this week's regionals are complete, that's not a problem.

I'll do an Atlanta-only one after ATL too if there is demand.
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

I am not a programmer, but here is an interesting challenge for someone with some time on their hands. Once Atlanta divisions are posted, use the OPR to pick the winning alliance assuming that the rankings and draft follow the OPR (alliances would be 1,2,24-3,4,23-5,6,22......). Obviously the OPR will pick 1114 and some other powerful hurdler as the winners, but I am curious how closely it may actually predict things.
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

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I am not a programmer, but here is an interesting challenge for someone with some time on their hands. Once Atlanta divisions are posted, use the OPR to pick the winning alliance assuming that the rankings and draft follow the OPR (alliances would be 1,2,24-3,4,23-5,6,22......). Obviously the OPR will pick 1114 and some other powerful hurdler as the winners, but I am curious how closely it may actually predict things.
To go even further:
Use the match scheduling algorithm to generate a schedule, then simulate each division's games, assuming that the alliance with the higher OPR always wins. Now you've got more accurate simulated rankings, because you may even have a weaker team get into the top 8 due to luck with the scheduling. However, you'd have issues because in the real world there'll be draft rejections which you can't plan for.

Then do the division playoffs and Einstein simulation. I may do that after my first exam when I have a long time off.
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

Hate to ask for more, but here goes:
I noticed our OPR drop dramatically when week 1 was added in (we had a lot of technical difficulties). Is anyone planning on doing an OPR ranking only using a teams last regional? This may more acurately show how the teams will perform at Atlanta....
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Re: Offensive Power Rankings for 2008

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Hate to ask for more, but here goes:
I noticed our OPR drop dramatically when week 1 was added in (we had a lot of technical difficulties). Is anyone planning on doing an OPR ranking only using a teams last regional? This may more acurately show how the teams will perform at Atlanta....
That's a really good point. I know when I'll prescout for my team, I'll focus on the team's last regional because it usually the best predictor to see how a team will preform. Maybe you can weigh the different regionals (such as if a team attends 2 regionals, the first regional may be 30% while the second will be 70% of thier total score).
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Hate to ask for more, but here goes:
I noticed our OPR drop dramatically when week 1 was added in (we had a lot of technical difficulties). Is anyone planning on doing an OPR ranking only using a teams last regional? This may more acurately show how the teams will perform at Atlanta....
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Do you want me to send a slide rule with Nathan tomorrow to help you out?
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Lol I think I can have the computer do most of the math for me. I just have to understand it... thats my hope at least.
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