YMTC: Redabot completes an autonomous lap

[Kevin Sevcik]

I love it when people point out odd loopholes in the rules. I'm actually going to go with 18 points. The reasoning:

<G02> TELEOPERATED PERIOD – The TELEOPERATED PERIOD is the 2-minute period of game play immediately following the HYBRID PERIOD. At the beginning of the TELEOPERATED PERIOD the OPERATOR CONSOLE controls are activated and DRIVERS may remotely control their ROBOTS. The DRIVERS continue to teleoperate their ROBOTS for the remainder of the MATCH. ROBOCOACHES may continue to signal the ROBOT. The TELEOPERATED PERIOD ends when the arena timer displays zero seconds. This also indicates the end of the MATCH.

Luckily, the common sense definition of immediately is the same as the dictionary one. That is, occuring without any lapse of time or delay. So G02 says teleop starts the instant hybrid hits 0. I realize this doesn't agree with reality or the intro section, but the intro section isn't definitive, as they say. So they finish crossing in teleop and get the 2 points.

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

I love it when people point out odd loopholes in the rules. I'm actually going to go with 18 points. The reasoning:Luckily, the common sense definition of immediately is the same as the dictionary one. That is, occuring without any lapse of time or delay. So G02 says teleop starts the instant hybrid hits 0. I realize this doesn't agree with reality or the intro section, but the intro section isn't definitive, as they say. So they finish crossing in teleop and get the 2 points.

However, if tele starts when the hybrid clock reaches zero, it is no longer a 2 min period, thus doesn't satisfy the first line of its definition. However, if you look at the pause as simply the end of hybrid it can last for any period of time and tele can be the 2 mins immediately following it. Fun thing to debate

[Alex Golec]

I don't see any question here. This has been one of the most consistent calls that I have seen in all of the regionals I've attended and watched.

At time zero, the robot has crossed 4 lines, and thus earns 16 points.

Also, the robot receives a warning for slamming into the opposing wall and will receive a yellow card the next time it occurs.

At the beginning of teleoperated, the robot is considered to be in the quadrant immediately following its home stretch for the purposes of the game (G22...), and will have to go around the field to get points for a lap.

If I were this team, I would either speed up the autonomous or stop before the finish line so I receive the most points for my effort.

Do I think this interpretation is asinine? Yes. Is that relevant to how the rules have consistently been called? No. Does it confuse the audience? Of course. Will the GDC change the rule? Doubtful. Will IRI change the rule? One can hope... but I digress.

16 points. End of story, and no argument.

[JesseK]

This isn't "how have the refs scored it this season?". Since WE make the call in this scenario, I'm inclined to give the bot 18 points, even before I read Kevin's post about the word "immediately". The bot did not CROSS the line in HYBRID mode, yet it did complete a lap outside of the HYBRID period and during the MATCH.

Looks like we may need some official clarification. Q&A anyone? (I don't have access atm)