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Re: GP? I think not.
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Maybe what's going through their head when they win their second or third regional is "we're so glad we helped these other two deserving teams on our alliance qualify for championships - we're going to have so much fun there." Or, are you proposing that the team who won their first regional decline to participate in the other regionals they are signed up for, limiting their students to only one event, rather than the two or three they have paid for, have been excited for so that they can meet and work with new teams, and have been working towards all build season? Maybe what's going through their head when they win their second or third regional is "wow, we're so glad that these students and sponsors and supporters who couldn't come to our first regional got a chance to see us perform to the best of our ability." Somehow I don't see how either of these are a better option than a team winning multiple regionals. |
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Re: Winning Multiple Regionals
Even if I'm an individual who chooses to dislike a "dominating team at a third regional," can I control the fact they are registered for the same event as my team attends? No, I can't. Even if I wish it was against the rules for them to be there, is it? No, it's not.
Can I control how I measure success with my team? Yes, I can. Should it all be about winning matches and events? No, not even close. Are you listening to your founders on this one? I hope so. 47, 1114, 1503, 1024 are model organizations. Multiple Chairman's Awards and a slew of other accomplishments are represented there. The cool thing is they're all rather generous and share quite a bit. So, in the end I don't get the point at all. What is there to be upset about? Last edited by Rich Kressly : 03-04-2008 at 23:16. |
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Re: GP? I think not.
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Re: GP? I think not.
Yes, if you are capable and competent, you should make effort to the best of your ability. Doing anything less is poor work ethic.
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Re: GP? I think not.
And thats just where I disagree, they have already done they're best during build season.
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Re: Winning Multiple Regionals
Teams should work at being more competitive than having FIRST try to make everything level. Instead of saying they shouldn't be allowed to dominate that many regionals, maybe someone should make a robot that will STOP them from dominating. This is how competition works, it makes you better.
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Re: GP? I think not.
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If there were not value in both parts, if there were not "their best" being demanded during the competition season, it would not exist. If we want to discuss this out more, PM me. |
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Re: Winning Multiple Regionals
I don't think any of us expected to win the regionals we went to.
Being a winner means you probably know how many things must work in the right way at the right time with the right alliances on both sides of the glass to make it happen. If there is such a thing as a "super team" you must means the ones like 1114 and 1024. Walk into our pit and ask for Qbranch and he won't stop telling you about how to fix your autonomous. He will have a laptop under his arm and be in your pits right until the last call before our matches. I have seen 1114 at Midwest completely take a team under their wing to help them in every way. There are no super teams just good people having great things happening to them. Believe me Karthik and his team as well as ours can look back on a lot of good fortune to make the three in a row happen. |
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Re: GP? I think not.
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If I interpreted what you just said correctly, then I don't know what to say other than: is that professional? Or gracious? |
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Re: GP? I think not.
I'm really confused. Say a team wins their first regional, what would you have them do? Not attend any further events? Stop trying? I'd like to hear your proposed solution.
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Re: GP? I think not.
I was just making a point that if there comes a point when youve done your best, and youve proved your capable, beating a dead horse maybe? something along those lines.
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About teams winning more than one regional... Teams choose regionals before they ever start building their robots. They do not choose regionals just to rub it in everyone else's face that their robot is better. A champion team is a team that competes to the best of its ability and performs excellently in the heat of competition. Should a team throw a regional after they have won a previous regional? NO That's just unsportsman. I am sorry that you may feel like you were ripped off of a champion win because a team there was better. Instead of complaining about that team, looking towards next year and seeing how you can try doing what they did to make your robot better would be more beneficial. It's good if a team has three regional championships. Three times as many teams get to see what a winning robot is made of and get inspired by that. And yes...ANYTHING is easier said than done. It is those than stand up and take the challenge who are on their way to being champions. Good luck and hope your next season is better. |
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Re: Winning Multiple Regionals
Again dont know where this is coming from.
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Re: GP? I think not.
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If 1114 were at MN instead of GTR this past weekend and they left the A-team at home or put them up in the stands because they had already won 2 regionals I would have been disappointed and embarrassed. I would have been disappointed because everyone in that arena would be missing out on the opportunity to be inspired by the "simplicity on the other side of complexity" exhibited by their machine. I would be embarrassed (and maybe even angry) because such a team's respect for the level of their competitors at the event is so low that they feel their winning is a foregone conclusion unless they bench the "starters". I fully expect any team that shows up to any regional I am at next year to compete to the best of their ability whether they have already won 2 or 3 regionals that year or if they are looking for the first in their team's history. |
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