Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

[XaulZan11]

I agree that 1114 probably won't win. Although 1114 is clearly the best team and has the best chance of winning, there are just too many factors involved. Bad alliances partners in qualification, a top ranked seed breaking up alliances, robots breaking in eliminations, being picked by a weaker alliance...there are just too many things that can go wrong. I do think they do deserve to win (I know I'll be rooting for them), but just looking at the 300+ teams at the championship, the chances of just one team winning is fairly small no matter how dominate they are.

If I had place my money on one team, it would be 1114. However, thier chances of winning are very small (just because of the amount of teams and luck invovled).

I think 3 hurdlers will win. Both of the first two robots will be very good hurdlers and at least one will be a team that has been mentioned in conversations of the best hurdlers. The third robot can hurdle, very good hybrid, can play good defense and experienced enough to face different situations.

I'm interested to see how solely lap/defense robots, like 148, are selected. If I was selecting an alliance, I would not take a robot that couln't hurdler. There have been too many eliminations and matches affected by an alliance main hurdler breaking down. I would take a team that may not get as many laps but can hurdler if need be.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

I agree that 1114 probably won't win. Although 1114 is clearly the best team and has the best chance of winning, there are just too many factors involved. Bad alliances partners in qualification, a top ranked seed breaking up alliances, robots breaking in eliminations, being picked by a weaker alliance...there are just too many things that can go wrong.

Sorry, but I think that 1114 is probably one of the only robots that may be able to win a match by themselves in qualifiers even with bad alliance partners. Granted, they are not going up against another "superpower" team as I like to call them.

An average of 8 hurdles I think? That's just nuts.

Originally Posted by James Mullenax

I know that my team (Team 1629 GACO) may not be the best robot out there but i do believe that we can help "put up a fight" we would be a great pick... We get bout 4 or 5 lines in hybrid mode plus we are extremly fast and moblie as well as a good hurdler/launcher... thats right we catapult it!... I will have to agree with previous statements that a well balanced alliance can easily take down a "powerhouse" robot... In buckeye our alliance took down the powerhouse bot 1024... once, but still, any alliance can take down anyone else... I feel that stratagy will play a HUGE part in this years champs...

GOOD LUCK TO ALL TEAMS... GO GaCo!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, there are actually a lot of teams like this that can help put up a fight. Take us for example, we can hurdle an average of 4 and we know how to play defense and how to strategize well. Like I said, there's alot of teams like this.

[987HighRoller]

Originally Posted by lilstogi11

An average of 8 hurdles I think? That's just nuts.

I don't think they have an average of 8 hurdles per match. I'm pretty sure the most hurdles by a single robot in one match (with proof) stands at 7.

[hillale]

I'd like to point out the fact that 1114 has yet to win a division at champs. It has been proven throughout the season that they are defeatable. Although it seems to be much much much more difficult when they have a hand-picked alliance brought around by the beginning of the elimination rounds. However, with the caliber and scoring record of many of the teams attending champs, there is a decent likelihood of a team capable of toppling them coming together. It all depends on who winds up in who's division. I believe that the winning alliance will include 3 hurdlers. One with a good hybrid (multiple lines with at least 1 ball), the other two with at least a line. One that can place at the end (it may come down to that to win). At least one that can easily knock off opponent's balls at the end. The third (least productive) hurdler will play defense until one of the others is taken out of commission or stops functioning on its own (if all things go to plan they will play defense the entire time, breaks happen though).

Alec


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I'd thoroughly not mind being on that team

[Nawaid Ladak]

wow, so were hearing a lot of 1114 vs the field arguements here. lol

1114 right now reminds me of Tiger Woods right now, i won't make my prediction for the championships until late next Sunday.

btw: is that a good comparison 1114 to FIRST is like Tiger Woods to Golf

[waialua359]

I would say 71 is like the tiger woods of golf. cant overlook the 4 national/world titles and the fact they were in the title match last year.
Anyone can have a great year.
As for most successful track record, even though no world titles, since their inception, IMO, hands down, the cheesy poofs! With a track record of winning about 90+ percent of regionals attended since 1999, that is simply amazing!
Of all the teams every year, I look forward to "their" bot every year!

[fredliu168]

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak

btw: is that a good comparison 1114 to FIRST is like Tiger Woods to Golf

I think its more like 1114 to FIRST is like Lebron James to basketball

Hes (probably) the best player in basketball, but needs a team to win the entire championship.

[Nawaid Ladak]

Originally Posted by fredliu168

I think its more like 1114 to FIRST is like Lebron James to basketball

Hes (probably) the best player in basketball, but needs a team to win the entire championship.

i think i've made that comparision before, i think in the gameday chat somewhere

FIRST=NBA
06" Team 25 Robot = Kobe Bryant
08" Team 1114 Robot = Lebron James

edit: the only thing that defeates this theory is: Lebron James put the Cavs on his back last year and took them to the finals...reminds me of 25 in 2006 (no disrespect to teams 195 and 968, they were great machines too.) and kobe needed someone to win: aka Shaq. i think 1114 will need this to succeed in Atlanta (217, 2056, 67 etc.)

[Bcliff358]

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak

i think i've made that comparision before, i think in the gameday chat somewhere

FIRST=NBA
06" Team 25 Robot = Kobe Bryant
08" Team 1114 Robot = Lebron James

edit: the only thing that defeates this theory is: Lebron James put the Cavs on his back last year and took them to the finals...reminds me of 25 in 2006 (no disrespect to teams 195 and 968, they were great machines too.) and kobe needed someone to win: aka Shaq. i think 1114 will need this to succeed in Atlanta (217, 2056, 67 etc.)

Then what was 71 in 2002? Hmmm... actually i don't think there is any athlete as good as their robot that year. However 1114's bot is up there as one of the best all time.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by Bcliff358

Then what was 71 in 2002? Hmmm... actually i don't think there is any athlete as good as their robot that year. However 1114's bot is up there as one of the best all time.

71 in 2002 had to have been the best designed bot for the games strategy ever.
plopping down and taking all match to move across the field. And getting max score almost every time :O

[Raul]

Originally Posted by 65_Xero_Huskie

71 in 2002 had to have been the best designed bot for the games strategy ever.
plopping down and taking all match to move across the field. And getting max score almost every time :O

Actually, I think 2001 version of 71 was even better. They could score more by themselves than most random 4 team alliances. In fact, any time they got a really low score for them it was because one of their partners blocked them from crossing the bridge.

[Battering_Ram]

Im going to say its gonna be the darkhorse taking home the gold. But I think the alliance that knocks out 1114 will be remebered more even if they get ousted in the next round.

I believe a team that can handle any complication (breakdown, good defense, 1114 making it rain, etc) will be really valuable, This sounds like common sense but IMO the all-arounders who know how to and CAN play (execute)defense/offense on demand will make it it to the big dance.

IMO an alliance will consist 2 hurdlers and "special ops" bot. I know people will want to have insurance for a hurdler breaking down but the old proverbs state "Offense wins games. Defense wins championships" and "A great defense is a good offense." A team that never scores cant win, may sound cliche but its definately true.

No matter what I can not wait to compete and watch. 10 days is too long!

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Battering_Ram

Im going to say its gonna be the darkhorse taking home the gold. But I think the alliance that knocks out 1114 will be remebered more even if they get ousted in the next round.

I believe a team that can handle any complication (breakdown, good defense, 1114 making it rain, etc) will be really valuable, This sounds like common sense but IMO the all-arounders who know how to and CAN play (execute)defense/offense on demand will make it it to the big dance.

IMO an alliance will consist 2 hurdlers and "special ops" bot. I know people will want to have insurance for a hurdler breaking down but the old proverbs state "Offense wins games. Defense wins championships" and "A great defense is a good offense." A team that never scores cant win, may sound cliche but its definately true.

No matter what I can not wait to compete and watch. 10 days is too long!

I agree with that 100%. Seriously that's what our drivers have trained for and that's what we showed in both NJ and Chesapeake. Special Ops is an awesome name for that type of robot. Ours is just one of those robots that can hurdle competitively and can give the opponent hell on the field in terms of defense. Alliance partners that we had can also agree with me on this that our strategies were awesomely effective on the field.

Again, totally agree.