Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

[BBnum3]

One thing that tends to happen at the Championship due to the low number of qualification matches is that a team who is not the strongest can "fluke" to the top of the standings due to good luck and/or alliance partners. We have all seen this discussed before and seen it in action in person, so I will not go into the details of it, but this is one of those factors that can severely affect the outcome of the divisions. When the weaker number 1 seeded team picks the stronger teams also seeded in the top 8, the powerhouse alliances can often get split up. Thus, it can be very hard to pick one team to win at all because of bad luck scenarios such as this. That said, if there is one robot that might be good enough to carry any alliance to Einstein, that robot has to be 1114.

[Jonathan Norris]

I know everyone likes to look at the top teams this year and predict them winning the championship, and most likely one of them will be on the winning alliance. But what I am looking for is this years 987 of last year, or 296 in '06, the team that makes major improvements over their regional performance. if you remember back to 06' a big part of 217, 296, and 522 winning performance was 296 improving from a 'good' team in their regional competitions to an 'elite' team at the championship. The same thing basically happened last year with 987 (I'm not as familiar with their regional performance), but I believe they improved a lot at the championship and really knew how to drive that bot in the elims (remember some of the ridiculous caps they made with defense on them??).

So watching the webcasts on friday and saturday morning I'll be looking for those teams that really step up their performance and fly under the radar a bit. Because I know all the top teams will be hunting for those great alliance selections, some picks may not have the pedigree thats expected and surprise some people.

Edit: post 610!!! w00t

[Dan Richardson]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris

But what I am looking for is this years 987 of last year,

Hrmmm could 987 be this years 987? I wonder.....

[Jonathan Norris]

Originally Posted by Stud Man Dan

Hrmmm could 987 be this years 987? I wonder.....

They are already on my elite team list, they may not be on everyone's radar but I would think after last year and how good they were at SD and LA this year they are on the elite team list already.

[Bcliff358]

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak

i think i've made that comparision before, i think in the gameday chat somewhere

FIRST=NBA
06" Team 25 Robot = Kobe Bryant
08" Team 1114 Robot = Lebron James

edit: the only thing that defeates this theory is: Lebron James put the Cavs on his back last year and took them to the finals...reminds me of 25 in 2006 (no disrespect to teams 195 and 968, they were great machines too.) and kobe needed someone to win: aka Shaq. i think 1114 will need this to succeed in Atlanta (217, 2056, 67 etc.)

Then what was 71 in 2002? Hmmm... actually i don't think there is any athlete as good as their robot that year. However 1114's bot is up there as one of the best all time.

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by Bcliff358

Then what was 71 in 2002? Hmmm... actually i don't think there is any athlete as good as their robot that year. However 1114's bot is up there as one of the best all time.

71 in 2002 had to have been the best designed bot for the games strategy ever.
plopping down and taking all match to move across the field. And getting max score almost every time :O

[JB987]

Originally Posted by Stud Man Dan

Hrmmm could 987 be this years 987? I wonder.....

Shhhhhhhhh....

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by JB987

Shhhhhhhhh....

Too late Joe! The High Rollers are a household name in FIRST and CD.

[Nawaid Ladak]

Originally Posted by Bcliff358

Then what was 71 in 2002? Hmmm... actually i don't think there is any athlete as good as their robot that year. However 1114's bot is up there as one of the best all time.

Originally Posted by 65_Xero_Huskie

71 in 2002 had to have been the best designed bot for the games strategy ever.
plopping down and taking all match to move across the field. And getting max score almost every time :O

i've seen video of this monster, but i started FIRST in 2003. if i HAD to put an athlete to 71... it might just be SHAQ

(71+1114 = 2008 World Champions ???, if you didn't get that, go back to my earlier post in this thread). they would be a steal in the second round...

[royal_robotix]

one of my all-time favorites, Team 330, the Beachbots, kicked some major butt at LA and im betting on them to win. at the very least, being finalists.

i swear the beachbots will take over the world one day.

but a special good luck to team 39 and every other team competing!

[BT987]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by BT987

Hmmmmmmmmmm

well said

[adman]

Remember that bad seeding on qualifications can make a team look
great or bad depending on how it goes.

Some teams drift to the top and run up 20 points of penalties per match.
It just means their alliance partners played their guts out.

At Midwest we were ranked 17th. We had some of the most difficult
seed matches we have ever seen. We were grateful that 1114 super
scouters recognized what we were actually doing insteading of the
ranking. We went on together to put that 146 score that stood for
quite a while.

Its a tough business winning. 1114 has so much on their shoulders about
what is expected of them we need to remember they are there to have
fun too, so are you!

Remember one last thing. All teams get better. There could be some sleeper
teams out there that found the missing bolt and loose wire or the grandeur of
Nationals brings the best out in them.

[Raul]

Originally Posted by 65_Xero_Huskie

71 in 2002 had to have been the best designed bot for the games strategy ever.
plopping down and taking all match to move across the field. And getting max score almost every time :O

Actually, I think 2001 version of 71 was even better. They could score more by themselves than most random 4 team alliances. In fact, any time they got a really low score for them it was because one of their partners blocked them from crossing the bridge.

[Josh Fox]

Originally Posted by adman

Remember one last thing. All teams get better. There could be some sleeper
teams out there that found the missing bolt and loose wire or the grandeur of
Nationals brings the best out in them.

Anyone have any ideas on who those sleeper teams might be? All the teams I would have brought up have already been named but does anyone else have ideas?