Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

[adman]

Remember that bad seeding on qualifications can make a team look
great or bad depending on how it goes.

Some teams drift to the top and run up 20 points of penalties per match.
It just means their alliance partners played their guts out.

At Midwest we were ranked 17th. We had some of the most difficult
seed matches we have ever seen. We were grateful that 1114 super
scouters recognized what we were actually doing insteading of the
ranking. We went on together to put that 146 score that stood for
quite a while.

Its a tough business winning. 1114 has so much on their shoulders about
what is expected of them we need to remember they are there to have
fun too, so are you!

Remember one last thing. All teams get better. There could be some sleeper
teams out there that found the missing bolt and loose wire or the grandeur of
Nationals brings the best out in them.

[Josh Fox]

Originally Posted by adman

Remember one last thing. All teams get better. There could be some sleeper
teams out there that found the missing bolt and loose wire or the grandeur of
Nationals brings the best out in them.

Anyone have any ideas on who those sleeper teams might be? All the teams I would have brought up have already been named but does anyone else have ideas?

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by FoXy92

Anyone have any ideas on who those sleeper teams might be? All the teams I would have brought up have already been named but does anyone else have ideas?

mine would be...
1251, 179, 16(if thats possible), 2056, 968, 1717, 1625, 1086

and im sure i could think of more, but those were the ones on the top of my head

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

mine would be...
1251, 179, 16(if thats possible), 2056, 968, 1717, 1625, 1086

and im sure i could think of more, but those were the ones on the top of my head

Add on 555 and 11 hehe j/k
If they fix their air problems (it runs out quickly) then I'd put up 375 as well. Their shooter is very similar to 103's if anyone saw it. Also 395, you can't deny that 2TrainRobotics is a strong robot.

[Guy Davidson]

If any of the teams mentioned above are sleepers, then I highly disagree with your definition of a sleeper. Those are all well known teams, most with at least one regional championship, who all paly well. The true sleepers will only emerge after competition begins, because they either changed their strategy or improved their robot enough that their relative lack of reknown befor the competition will be gone by alliance selections.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Guy Davidson

If any of the teams mentioned above are sleepers, then I highly disagree with your definition of a sleeper. Those are all well known teams, most with at least one regional championship, who all paly well. The true sleepers will only emerge after competition begins, because they either changed their strategy or improved their robot enough that their relative lack of reknown befor the competition will be gone by alliance selections.

I was thinking of a sleeper as an average scoring robot that may have won a regional or came close to it. Yes, they are well known team, but they are kind of like second tier teams in terms of the tier 1 teams like 1114. True sleepers are what I consider third tier (none of which i listed up there).

[MasterChief 573]

Yeah, those teams are pretty well known by other teams, especially 1717!

Some sleepers in my mind: 107, 291, 326, 337, 343, 357, and 573. Just of the top of my head. Half have one regional competitions, but I think that they still go relatively unnoticed.

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by Guy Davidson

If any of the teams mentioned above are sleepers, then I highly disagree with your definition of a sleeper. Those are all well known teams, most with at least one regional championship, who all paly well. The true sleepers will only emerge after competition begins, because they either changed their strategy or improved their robot enough that their relative lack of reknown befor the competition will be gone by alliance selections.

but, most of these that i listed, nobody stated in this thread... thats the only reason for the "above average" sleeper list

[chaoticprout]

I'm gonna call it now for real. The X-Factor on Einstein will be a 3rd bot who can knock, has at least 3 line hybrid and doesn't get penalties.

[Akash Rastogi]

What do you guys consider being a top number of hurdles for an arm bot (since it was brought up) but please don't go into the arm vs. shooter thing. Please.lol

edit: arm or lifter- average number of hurdles. Above, someone said that 330 and like 217 have 4-5 average. So what do you think is the best for an arm bot?

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by lilstogi11

What do you guys consider being a top number of hurdles for an arm bot (since it was brought up) but please don't go into the arm vs. shooter thing. Please.lol

edit: arm or lifter- average number of hurdles. Above, someone said that 330 and like 217 have 4-5 average. So what do you think is the best for an arm bot?

probably anywhere between 3 and 5 per match would be good for an arm.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

probably anywhere between 3 and 5 per match would be good for an arm.

5 per match would be good for anyone

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by Cory

5 per match would be good for anyone

true that... maybe i was overambitious since we have an arm bot?

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Cory

5 per match would be good for anyone

Sweet, so we're still in the running. Anyone else have an opinion on this?

[bigbeezy]

I believe that the winners this year will not be who everyone is expecting to win. For instance last year the "weakest" division was Newton and thats the division that ended up winning the whole thing. It usually ends up that the teams everyone expects to win, dont. Whether it's mechanical/electrical problems or just a shear better alliance knocks them out. Stuff happends...