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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

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Anyone have any ideas on who those sleeper teams might be? All the teams I would have brought up have already been named but does anyone else have ideas?
mine would be...
1251, 179, 16(if thats possible), 2056, 968, 1717, 1625, 1086

and im sure i could think of more, but those were the ones on the top of my head
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mine would be...
1251, 179, 16(if thats possible), 2056, 968, 1717, 1625, 1086

and im sure i could think of more, but those were the ones on the top of my head
Add on 555 and 11 hehe j/k
If they fix their air problems (it runs out quickly) then I'd put up 375 as well. Their shooter is very similar to 103's if anyone saw it. Also 395, you can't deny that 2TrainRobotics is a strong robot.
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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

If any of the teams mentioned above are sleepers, then I highly disagree with your definition of a sleeper. Those are all well known teams, most with at least one regional championship, who all paly well. The true sleepers will only emerge after competition begins, because they either changed their strategy or improved their robot enough that their relative lack of reknown befor the competition will be gone by alliance selections.
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If any of the teams mentioned above are sleepers, then I highly disagree with your definition of a sleeper. Those are all well known teams, most with at least one regional championship, who all paly well. The true sleepers will only emerge after competition begins, because they either changed their strategy or improved their robot enough that their relative lack of reknown befor the competition will be gone by alliance selections.
I was thinking of a sleeper as an average scoring robot that may have won a regional or came close to it. Yes, they are well known team, but they are kind of like second tier teams in terms of the tier 1 teams like 1114. True sleepers are what I consider third tier (none of which i listed up there).
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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

Yeah, those teams are pretty well known by other teams, especially 1717!

Some sleepers in my mind: 107, 291, 326, 337, 343, 357, and 573. Just of the top of my head. Half have one regional competitions, but I think that they still go relatively unnoticed.
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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

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Hrmmm could 987 be this years 987? I wonder.....
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one of my all-time favorites, Team 330, the Beachbots, kicked some major butt at LA and im betting on them to win. at the very least, being finalists.

i swear the beachbots will take over the world one day.

but a special good luck to team 39 and every other team competing!
Don't you guys know that the west coast is soft??

Heck, we all just beat up on all those creampuff teams out here. Not like those midwestern folks with their super elite teams.

987, 330, 39, 1717, 968, 254... nothing to see here. Those guys couldn't hold 1114's jock. No need to worry about them in Atlanta. They can't hang with the big boys
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Don't you guys know that the west coast is soft??

Heck, we all just beat up on all those creampuff teams out here. Not like those midwestern folks with their super elite teams.

987, 330, 39, 1717, 968, 254... nothing to see here. Those guys couldn't hold 1114's jock. No need to worry about them in Atlanta. They can't hang with the big boys
lol, i heard 254 can't even put up a decent score.

In all seriousness, I just can't wait for divisions to be released. That's when true winner predictions begin.
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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

I've enjoyed the privilege of attending Florida, GTR, and GLR. You're all correct, awesome bots. I have to say, however, Watch for HOT. Cannot be considered a sleeper. Their Autonomous is already elegant and they've got way more tricks up their sleeves.
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Don't you guys know that the west coast is soft??

Heck, we all just beat up on all those creampuff teams out here. Not like those midwestern folks with their super elite teams.

987, 330, 39, 1717, 968, 254... nothing to see here. Those guys couldn't hold 1114's jock. No need to worry about them in Atlanta. They can't hang with the big boys
ha I thought that was serious until I looked at who posted it was from the poofs!!!! Ha
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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

really I think it could be split back into the arm vs shooter arguement (please don't do it though) but there are really strong shooters I could see win (16 and 39 are my favourites) some strong arm bots (330, 121 (they averaged 5 hurdles I think, maybe 4), 217 ) and some strong hybrids (1114, 254) all in all, anyone of those could win, anyone of those against one another would prove to be a very fun match to watch.

That being said, I still think 1114 will win, and I would love for them to win, but I would also love 121 to win because we shared their roller claw idea (they helped us with that video) and I would also love 16 to win, because flip bots are my favourite type of bots of all time, that and their roller is crazy, and they shoot really well.


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If any of the teams mentioned above are sleepers, then I highly disagree with your definition of a sleeper. Those are all well known teams, most with at least one regional championship, who all paly well. The true sleepers will only emerge after competition begins, because they either changed their strategy or improved their robot enough that their relative lack of reknown befor the competition will be gone by alliance selections.
but, most of these that i listed, nobody stated in this thread... thats the only reason for the "above average" sleeper list
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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

I'm gonna call it now for real. The X-Factor on Einstein will be a 3rd bot who can knock, has at least 3 line hybrid and doesn't get penalties.
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What do you guys consider being a top number of hurdles for an arm bot (since it was brought up) but please don't go into the arm vs. shooter thing. Please.lol

edit: arm or lifter- average number of hurdles. Above, someone said that 330 and like 217 have 4-5 average. So what do you think is the best for an arm bot?
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I'm gonna call it now for real. The X-Factor on Einstein will be a 3rd bot who can knock, has at least 3 line hybrid and doesn't get penalties.
I completely agree, but I would add that it needs to be able to get at least 30 points CONSISTENTLY!
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I'm gonna call it now for real. The X-Factor on Einstein will be a 3rd bot who can knock, has at least 3 line hybrid and doesn't get penalties.
HYBRID HYBRID HYBRID. because I have been to both waterloo and GTR and lost both times to 1114 in semis, I have come to the conclusion that hybrid is huge. I always see the score that the end of the match and thinking " they did not get double the hurdles we got, and then I find out hyrbid score was like 54 to 16... so it made more sense

I think the teams that have a really good coordinated hybrids can pull off wins before the match even begins lol
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