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Re: Predictions to win 2008 Frc Championship

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Originally Posted by waialua359 View Post
I think its definitely debate-able. We definitely needed to place both balls all weekend in order to win our seeding matches and get through eliminations to the finals. Placing both balls were the key in winning our last pivotal match during seeding rounds which both 2024 and us needed against the 846 and 1572 teams where all of us were in the top 8 prior to playing our last match. 2024 and us placed both balls in the last 5 seconds to win that match.
In addition, during the elimination matches, we and 368 went up against the powerhouse 25 and 968 team. We won ultimately because we placed the balls up at the end of the matches. There alliance never placed balls. With a point differential of 24 points, you will see that we won by a score much less than that, thus its importance.
I see your point. However, from the point of view of simplicity and being able to focus on task, I'd rather have my drivers focus on one thing or another. In the eliminations, I believe most alliances will be structured with two ball handlers, aka hurdlers, and a third defensive and ball-knocking bot. I think that with the hecticness at the end of most matches, I'd rather my defensive bot focuses on preventing the other alliance from placing, or knocking over a placed ball (both of which, if done right, as just as good as a place for the same alliance) while the two ball handlers try to place the ball, if they can, or make a last-second hurdle.

In both cases you presented, your ball handlers made the last-second place. I bet it would have been much harder to pull off a double-place in the last five seconds (as I've also seen 2024 and 192 pull of during the SVR eliminations) of one of the placers was not one of the default ball handlers, and you would have needed to coordinate transferring / changing ball handling.

Perhaps a friendly wager of some sorts? If we agree that most eliminations alliances will have two major ball handlers, then I believe that very few elimination matches will be decided by a ball placed by the third (non-handling) alliance members. What say you?
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