String Theory: <G22> at the Championships

[JesseK]

Pool noodles that are attached to your bot via 6-8" of string may work and not get entangled. The string would allow the noodle to freely rotate as intended by the original idea.. However, I'm willing to bet that better driving will work much more efficiently in the end.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Valley Raider

I don't see this as a problem. Look the string is just going to be laying on the ground there is no way for you to force it into the wheels of another Robot. The only way it's going to become entangled is if an opposing bot drives over it. In this case they are the ones who started the contact and thus they can't force you to take a penalty.

Find someone who was around in 2002. The tethers had a tendency to tangle at least a little when driven over, even the ones with metal reinforcing them.

And as for having another robot drive over it and not get a penalty... Outside the bumper zone contact, plus it probably goes past your bumpers, which makes you responsible. Not quite a non-penalty situation... but you could argue that it was their fault (if it was short enough)... So it would depend on the ref. I'm not exactly thrilled about using something that could make the ref make a difficult call.

[LightWaves1636]

I like the idea a lot..although if entanglement with just string is an issure, perhaps bike chain...it works just as well...1799 put a length of bike chain on their chassis last year so that their bot would be ground when they drove around..(they had a problem with static electricity building up and than then their bot stalling for no reason.).

[Rick TYler]

Originally Posted by Alex469

Three years, and we're still improvising to make up for a lack of common sense in the rules.

I respectfully disagree. You might not like <G22>, but it is crystal clear and easily enforced. Tying string on your robot is lawyering the game, in my opinion, and the time spent coming up with schemes like this might be more fruitfully spent learning to drive your robots in a way that did not violate <G22>.

[XXShadowXX]

In my personal experience all string theory or any theory that using string theory as a base is far out in left feild. And is just more complex then anything needs to be (things that are mirco sized on the quantum plane made of super energy vibrating in more then 10^200 ways?!?!?!?!?!)

Also this may not volate the rule but the spirt of the rule which you will be called on too.. or we were *shrugs*

[EricH]

Originally Posted by LightWaves1636

I like the idea a lot..although if entanglement with just string is an issure, perhaps bike chain...it works just as well...1799 put a length of bike chain on their chassis last year so that their bot would be ground when they drove around..(they had a problem with static electricity building up and than then their bot stalling for no reason.).

Make SURE that ALL the grease is off first if you use that. Something about robots not being allowed to lose lubricant or similar things on the field. (It's one of the first rules in the ROBOT section of the manual.)

[deshirider430]

Originally Posted by Qbranch

Same here, Uberbots, Same here...


The best anti-G22-solution you ask? Don't back over lines.

-q

word.

[jblay]

this idea reminds me of the 2002 game when there was some team that a rope that popped out like 10 feet and got them into their home zone for extra points.

The problems are:
entanglement(illegal contact outside the bumper zone)
not having a lot of control of the rope because it is a rope which is not stiff(may cause even more g22s)
it cant be very long because you have to stay within an 80 inch cylinder

[Uberbots]

You know, its kinda funny how we are talking about entanglement in a topic about string theory

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by Uberbots

You know, its kinda funny how we are talking about entanglement in a topic about string theory

Quantum Robot Mechanics anyone?

[Karthik]

I was very excited to see this thread, until I figured out what it was actually about. I was pumped to read about actual string theory.

[LightWaves1636]

Originally Posted by EricH

Make SURE that ALL the grease is off first if you use that. Something about robots not being allowed to lose lubricant or similar things on the field. (It's one of the first rules in the ROBOT section of the manual.)

I believe they do because it wasn't greasy when I touched it, but yeah.

[Pavan Dave]

Originally Posted by Karthik

I was very excited to see this thread, until I figured out what it was actually about. I was pumped to read about actual string theory.

... I had a good feeling it wasn't about that string theory. I've read way too many books and seen too many movies on string theory as well as read way too many posts on Chief to know that this wasn't the real deal. Come on Karthik, you should have known better! ...

*Sarcasm Meter*

On another note, I believe this topic needs to officially be asked in a Q&A. This could seriously alter any strategy of the possible Einstein teams and maybe, just maybe, we will have some penalty free matches...

[fredliu168]

Perhaps to resolve the entanglement issue just have a big metal stick poke out from behind the robot. This stick should be at bumper height and should be retractable.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by LightWaves1636

I like the idea a lot..although if entanglement with just string is an issure, perhaps bike chain...it works just as well...1799 put a length of bike chain on their chassis last year so that their bot would be ground when they drove around..(they had a problem with static electricity building up and than then their bot stalling for no reason.).

See <R06>. While it mentions "metal being used as a traction device", it's fairly clear the intent is you should not have metal on your robot dragging on the carpet.