Galileo Division 2008

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by ttldomination

THey may not, but if one of them seeds first, then they will not let the change bypass them and they will quickly bypass them.

Does this make sense to anyone else?

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by ttldomination

THey may not, but if one of them seeds first, then they will not let the change bypass them and they will quickly bypass them.

Originally Posted by Vikesrock

Does this make sense to anyone else?

Got to admit, the point of ttldomination's post eludes me...

[jayjaywalker3]

Originally Posted by cziggy343

or unlucky that they dont get to see all the great action!

There goes all the ultimate frisbee i was looking to play. When will i ever be able to get out into the sun between watching all the matches and discussing strategy till late at night.

Originally Posted by AustinDpOwers89

really i'm thinking a 3 good hurdler/shooter alliance would be an ultimate alliance if they can effectively cooperate and share the 2 track balls. think of the robot without the ball on the otherside of the overpass and the 1st robot hurdles and passes it off to the waiting robot who can grab it within seconds and go around the track. Then the 1st robot waits for the other trackball to be hurdled grabs it and so on. now applying the same idea to a 3 shooter alliance, if they could shoot "kiddy-corner" that would be epic. and with so many good hurdlers in this division i can see it happening.

Any other 3 hurdler strategies other than third hurdler being a backup?

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak

i don't want to rain on your porade, but couldn't match 2 be a tie, depending on if that number was above 127 or below 127 and if you rounded up or down.... because you can't have odd numbered scores in this years game

I don't want to rain on your "porade", but I have a slight feeling that Joe may be familiar with how to round numbers...

[AustinDpOwers89]

Originally Posted by jayjaywalker3

There goes all the ultimate frisbee i was looking to play. When will i ever be able to get out into the sun between watching all the matches and discussing strategy till late at night.



Any other 3 hurdler strategies other than third hurdler being a backup?

I guess a third hurdler could play defense by like elevating on the otherside of the opposing alliance's overpass... blocking shots perhaps or knocking a hurdler's balls back...

[ThunderChief]

I have posted a paper with YouTube links to the video clips that I shot of the Elimination & other selected matches at the Los Angeles Regional.

You can also find them by searching YouTube for “FIRST Robotics Los Angeles” or by team number, using the Chief Delphi standard to prefix it with “frc”. For example: “frc330”, “frc1717”, “frc980”, etc.

Or just go to: www.YouTube.com/GaryWHedge

[cziggy343]

Originally Posted by David Brinza

Got to admit, the point of ttldomination's post eludes me...

yeah... it doesn't make since to me either...

[MCahoon]

Video from the Microsoft-Seattle Regional has not been posted on Blue Alliance, but team video of some of the elimination rounds has been posted on our team site at
http://tshs.tahoma.wednet.edu/sites/robotics/

Enjoy!

[Sunshine]

This thread has been very entertaining to watch. There also seems to be a lot of chest pounding and politicking going on. Some of you make it appear that the other divisions should just stay home.

Spend some time on other threads talking about other alliances and you'll obviously get a different perspective about everyones chances.

My two observations would be:

Watch out for the dark horses. Many of you have already declared your picks without considering other good robots who have quietly done well this year. Although prescouting is fun and possibly rewarding, continual scouting will be very important in Atlanta. How many teams have come up with plans to improve their robots? How many teams have less stellar robots than you predict because the toll of doing multiply regionals have taken a hit on the structural integrity of their robot? How many teams have strategized great defense maneuvers to compliment good offense?

My second observation may be a sensitive bias because we are a second year team. But do not rule out teams that happen to have numbers above 2000. There always appears to be an underlying notion that only teams who have been around for several years will do well. You may be setting yourself up for a disappointment because you did not look at other teams strictly because of their assigned number.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Karthik

I don't want to rain on your "porade", but I have a slight feeling that Joe may be familiar with how to round numbers...

I rounded to the nearest whole number. I did not round to the nearest multiple of two, mainly because I was lazy and didn't want to write a function to do that. Since the errors in the OPRs are much higher then the error caused by not rounding to a multiple of two, I don't think it makes much difference. Another big error is that 103, 469, and 121 could probably not all score their OPR, since there are only 2 balls to go around.

Without rounding, Red's score was 126.71 and Blue's score was 127.901. If rounded to a multiple of 2, Blue would still win 128 to 126.

[David Brinza]

Originally Posted by Sunshine

This thread has been very entertaining to watch. There also seems to be a lot of chest pounding and politicking going on. Some of you make it appear that the other divisions should just stay home.

Spend some time on other threads talking about other alliances and you'll obviously get a different perspective about everyones chances.

My two observations would be:

Watch out for the dark horses. Many of you have already declared your picks without considering other good robots who have quietly done well this year. Although prescouting is fun and possibly rewarding, continual scouting will be very important in Atlanta. How many teams have come up with plans to improve their robots? How many teams have less stellar robots than you predict because the toll of doing multiply regionals have taken a hit on the structural integrity of their robot? How many teams have strategized great defense maneuvers to compliment good offense?

My second observation may be a sensitive bias because we are a second year team. But do not rule out teams that happen to have numbers above 2000. There always appears to be an underlying notion that only teams who have been around for several years will do well. You may be setting yourself up for a disappointment because you did not look at other teams strictly because of their assigned number.

Oh, there's a lot of teams that keep a low profile and do their "talking" on the field. We all know that the serious scouts are looking at teams' performance (including their own) on the field and how each team might complement (or neutralize) each other.

As far as second year teams, Exploding Bacon made it to Einstein last year. They were the "real deal". Experienced scouts give team number just a little more consideration than color of the robot when it comes to evaluating a team's capability.

This thread is supposed to be entertaining and some of the entertainment comes from watching team members "position" themselves. Keep in mind, almost nobody will be referring to this thread when alliance selection time is near...

[ThunderChief]

I have posted a paper in CD-Media with YouTube links to the video clips that I shot of the Elimination & other selected matches at the San Diego Regional.

You can also find them by searching YouTube for “FIRST Robotics San Diego” or by team number, using the Chief Delphi standard to prefix it with “frc”. For example: “frc330”, “frc1717”, “frc980”, etc.

Or just go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtflM11-z6k

[ThunderChief]

I have posted a paper in CD-Media with a Blank Form for you to hang in your Pit and fill in by hand with your Match Schedule and Scores. Word format in color, 906 Kb. Enjoy.

Complements of Team 980 - ThunderBots - Galileo Division - World Championship 2008.

[brentmcjunkin]

were leaving wednessday at 4 I just cant wait to go the action starts in 3 1/2 days

[DhavalP]

Same here!