paper: 2008 Team 1114 Championship Database

[Derek Bessette]

Originally Posted by Chris Herold

Still, I think you should be careful with the conclusions from the database about the teams.
If you have a look at our scores, for example. The scores for the Seattle Regional are lower for us than for the Portland Regional.
Even though, our team was 5-2-0 in the qualification rounds in Portland, we didn't play 3 of those matches due to technical issues!
In contrast, in Seattle, we were quite dominating, scoring a lot of points and ending up as an alliance-captain and finally as the winner of the regional. During the tournament we didn't break down. In the finals we had a large contribution and didn't lose any game.
We greatly improved between those two regionals (teams that saw both regionals will tell you that), but the database does not really reflect that.
This is again caused by the OPR that are not reflecting at all what percentage of scoring a team does and closer data about the team itself. I think our scouting system gives us more, and detailed information about the teams themself, even though it needs more time to be evaluated...

I am just saying that our team is a good example of the disadvantages for these kinds of statistics

Chris
Team 1983 - The Skunkworks

This is why, in the past, we have not posted these statistics. They are not perfect. But they are the best thing anyone has come up with to determine a teams contribution using only match scores. At championship, as we do at every regional, we'll be counting every point scored (or lost) by each robot. Nothing beats numbers.

These stats are definitely a better gauge of a teams performance than believing what a team says about there own performance. You said that in Portland you were scoring a lot of points in qualifying, yet your average alliance score was 30.5. Based on this information, I would say your statement was a little optimistic. I don't blame you for it, everyone does it. It's just an example of why we like to use numbers.

It is possible that I am wrong here and you put up 30+ points every match and your partners were taking penalties. If that is the case, I guarantee that our scouts and many others will take notice of you on Galileo. No matter what your OPR was on this spreadsheet.

Good luck. We'll see you on the field.

[Dasistmeinmoped]

great stuff

wish i heard about it before i compiled mad data off blue alliance for my division..

o well.

anyone have any stats on penalties drawn by robots, or alliances?

not gonna lie, i learn more about a team by how many points they lose, then score