Sad day, FIRST now FIRLP

[Pavan Dave]

Originally Posted by Joe Matt

FYI, I've challeneged, questioned, and called out FIRST on these forums, in public, and on podcast. Saying anyone is silenced who calls them out is as bad as saying everyone here is just a bunch of whiners; it's not true, it's a blanket statement, and is usually written out of passion of the moment.

Again, CHILL.

Not to condone this kind of behaviour but to get the record straight, I have spoken out against FIRST on many occasions as I am someone who is a supporter of Robotics Education rather then a FIRST fan.

In some posts I have been very respectful and courteous and have even given support of my opinions and viewpoints. I recieved both good and bad repuatations from very 'elite' members of these forums who you are saying do not judge you for "anti-FIRST" messages but more bad then good. At the same time, I have challenged FIRST in a rude and [almost] insulting manner and recieved both repuatations from 'elite' members but more good then bad.

People should stop saying "we judge by the quailty of the post and not the pro-anti-FIRST messages" because its NOT TRUE!


Also, I know MANY people who have been members on these forums for over 5 years and have yet to post! It doesn't mean anything. Let Brandon check IPs if he wishes but don't accuse without proof (the same thing you are telling David to do.)


David, rather then bash FIRST why not hop? You can't change a company/corporation/organization by yourself. You have to go through a time consuming process usually involving lawyers.... Have you tried VEX [IFI]? Botball? BEST? among other programs? Check out the NASA Robotics Alliance Project website - http://robotics.nasa.gov/edu/matrix.php


EDIT:

Dave, when the messenger originally asks for one sort of payment but continues to raise it every other trip does it make the message "more" important because more was spent transporting? People need to realize that FIRST has its flaws! EVERYONE DOES! If you don't agree with the messenger find a new one! We have FedEx and UPS if we don't like the default USPS. If 3-days gets the job done, why overnight?