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Re: Match scheduling algorithm and team numbers
I was playing around with the scheduler last night and I noticed the same thing. It think Sean from 25 posted it in the Galileo thread as well.
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) Good work as usual Joe. |
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i'd like to know how the parameters were setup where, in Chesapeake with a field of 61 teams, we played with team 75 once and against them 3 times in a span of 5 consecutive matches.
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I thought something funny was up at the Connecticut Regional- we played with and against mostly rookie and sophomore teams. Team 175, on the other hand, had a notorious match with six 100's-range established (and incredible) teams.
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MatchMaker -t 60 -r 8 -m 8 MatchMaker takes three parameters for generating a schedule: number of teams playing (60), number of rounds to play(8), and minimum match separation for each team(8). (All other parameters that the program accepts are irrelevant to how the matches are scheduled.) The first parameter must be the number of teams. The second parameter is dictated by the time available to play the matches. The third parameter of minimum match separation is the only one that is left to discretion. The third parameter can be found by counting how many matches are between teams' matches. The fewest matches between a pair of matches will be that parameter. Also, the MatchRater program can be applied to schedules available at http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...ts.aspx?id=430 offering some insight in the scheduling. It looks like 75 and 359 just got the short end of the stick on this one, given that there were numerous teams that face 24 distinct opponents. This is a case where the parameters chosen were reasonable(maybe not great, but reasonable), but whoever made the schedule probably ran the program in Default (fast and less effective) instead of Good or Best (which really just runs the same algorithm for longer.) Better luck next time. ~Phil |
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Thanks for doing the study. I total agree with Joe that this years algorithm is much better then lasts. I am sure first will see this and make the small modification for next years algorithm. The one question i have is you said you did 200 matches yet the first one i see is 1114 and us and the number 210 does that mean i play with them once and against them once????
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As Brian pointed out, when I ran the simulation, I did not sort by team number, so those statistics do not apply to specific team numbers, only specific positions in the team list. 25 probably only has about a 25% chance of seeing 1114 in a match. |
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just wanted to point out and add to the fact that in looking at our practice matches tomorrow, only 1 team of the 3 matches for either sides have a 2xxx team. Other than team 1165, we have no team no. larger than ours (other 5 teams on the field).
Interesting to say the least if that is a sign of things to come on the match schedule for friday and saturday. |
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Just to back up what's been discussed here, I just looked at the match schedule for my team (1816) this weekend. Out of 35 alliance partners/opponents, only two have numbers lower than 1212.
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Re: Match scheduling algorithm and team numbers
In June, the Saxtons released a new version of the MatchMaker software (1.0.3b1). The description is "Here is a beta release of the new version that has an improved algorithm to reduce the clumping effect observed at the Philly regional during week 6." It can be downloaded from the usual place, http://www.idleloop.com/matchmaker/download.php
I've started running the same tests as I did in this thread, but the early results look very good. I generated schedules for the size from the championship (85 teams, 8 matches, default minimum match separation). I then summed the team numbers of each alliance and plotted them, similar to the picture in this thread. team_number_sum_102.PNG shows the results from the version run at the championship, and looks very similar to the thread linked above. team_number_sum_103.PNG shows the results from the new version. It looks much better (less correlated). team_number_sum_102_Random.PNG shows the results from the older version, with a randomized team list. This looks very similar to the results from the new version, which shows the new version does a good job. I'll post more as I evaluate further. |
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i downloaded the new version, unzipped it, and opened it. I got a command prompt to flash on the screen then it closed. am i doing it wrong?
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C:\>cd c:\MatchMakerWin C:\MatchMakerWin>MatchMaker.exe Last edited by SamC : 23-08-2008 at 23:06. Reason: wrong directory names |
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