Galileo Division 2008

[waialua359]

I think the key is not counting out team 8. If they cant strategize and beat them successfully (1114) i.e. slow them down, trap the ball, etc. then who can? Slowing down 1114 will be significant if it can be done since the other alliance can score at will also.

To the other comment about the scenario that could break up the alliance, how ironic is it that Aces High are in the mix again similar to that of Newton 2006!

If 330 wins out, the alliance will be set with 1114 and 330. 330 picking 1114 as a #1 pick is a guarantee and 1114 accepting should be a guarantee. Accepting means its a guaranteed strong alliance versus them declining and taking whoever 330 doesn't take.

With all of the hype this year about 1114, I had to see them for myself in a match. They are the team 25 of 2006 and I am a believer now!


My last scenario would be the most interesting. What if 1114 ends up at #1 and takes 254? That would be such a strong alliance that if they should win the championship title, they would both be the two most strongest teams to have finally won a title!

[65_Xero_Huskie]

Originally Posted by waialua359

I think the key is not counting out team 8. If they cant strategize and beat them successfully (1114) i.e. slow them down, trap the ball, etc. then who can? Slowing down 1114 will be significant if it can be done since the other alliance can score at will also.

To the other comment about the scenario that could break up the alliance, how ironic is it that Aces High are in the mix again similar to that of Newton 2006!

If 330 wins out, the alliance will be set with 1114 and 330. 330 picking 1114 as a #1 pick is a guarantee and 1114 accepting should be a guarantee. Accepting means its a guaranteed strong alliance versus them declining and taking whoever 330 doesn't take.

With all of the hype this year about 1114, I had to see them for myself in a match. They are the team 25 of 2006 and I am a believer now!


My last scenario would be the most interesting. What if 1114 ends up at #1 and takes 254? That would be such a strong alliance that if they should win the championship title, they would both be the two most strongest teams to have finally won a title!

U have 1114 picking 254? Hm, i got that as an option, I think they would pick differently though.

[rsilverstein]

Originally Posted by waialua359

My last scenario would be the most interesting. What if 1114 ends up at #1 and takes 254? That would be such a strong alliance that if they should win the championship title, they would both be the two most strongest teams to have finally won a title!

If 1114 ends up at #1 then that means they would have beaten 254 in their match against each other. Causing 254 will have at least 2 losses, putting them low in the rankings. If 1114 picked 254, then that would give 330 (high in the rankings... maybe even #2 seed) the opportunity to pick another strong team (217, 25, 494) which would also make a strong alliance.

If 1114 picks 330, however, than the 2nd alliance would probably be captained by a weaker team, leaving them to break up the other powerhouses, leading to an almost sure win for 1114/330.

In other words, they would be better off picking the higher seeded team (even if people believe that 254 is better than 330... which, in itself, I think I would have to disagree with)

[Cascade]

254 can shoot, now doubt about it. 330 can hurdle and has precise control at the end game. 330 has the intangible, however: experience.

No matter how the alliances shakeout, gonna be very fast with lots of scoring.

Could it come down to defense?

[EricH]

The 1114-254 match is over...72-46, 1114 wins. 254 was stuck under the center Lexan all match. 8 was defending pretty well... First time in a while that 1114 hasn't scored 100+.

[Bongle]

Originally Posted by EricH

The 1114-254 match is over...72-46, 1114 wins. 254 was stuck under the center Lexan all match. 8 was defending pretty well... First time in a while that 1114 hasn't scored 100+.

They failed to score 100 in their 2nd match (barely), but 72 is certainly much farther from 100 than they're used to. So it appears it is indeed possible to play strong defense against them, even with a dead robot. Though if 254 wasn't stuck against the divider, 1114 might have had an easier time getting around 8, and thus scored more.

[Michael Corsetto]

330 lost a drive motor or something because they were out of commission for all of their 6th match past hybrid mode. I hope they can get it fixed.

Looks like 1114 is going to end qualifiers undefeated. I'm going to go out and say that 1114 doesn't pick 254 or 330, but instead 217. I think out of these three teams 217 will perform the best under both high pressure and high defense. I know 330 has excellent drivers, but I think 330's overall robot design lends itself to be easier to defend. And although 254 has a powerhouse robot as well, they lack the driver experience and ability to play with heavy defense in order to be effective on Einstein.

[Andy330]

Originally Posted by Rex114

330 lost a drive motor or something because they were out of commission for all of their 6th match past hybrid mode. I hope they can get it fixed.

Looks like 1114 is going to end qualifiers undefeated. I'm going to go out and say that 1114 doesn't pick 254 or 330, but instead 217. I think out of these three teams 217 will perform the best under both high pressure and high defense. I know 330 has excellent drivers, but I think 330's overall robot design lends itself to be easier to defend. And although 254 has a powerhouse robot as well, they lack the driver experience and ability to play with heavy defense in order to be effective on Einstein.

Our contact said it was a thrown drive chain, the first I can remember having gotten during a match this year. I can't imagine they won't have it ready to go for the next match.

Personally, I can't wait for our next match (against the Thunderchickens). It should be a great competition (not to mention it could determine whether we seed in the top 8 ).

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Andy330

Our contact said it was a thrown drive chain, the first I can remember having gotten during a match this year. I can't imagine they won't have it ready to go for the next match.

Personally, I can't wait for our next match (against the Thunderchickens). It should be a great competition (not to mention it could determine whether we seed in the top 8 ).

Only one? I can only think of one that would virtually immobilize a full side of the drive.

I also suspected something of the sort.

[Mike Ross]

1114 (#1 seed) just picked 217.
Good luck everybody. Let the fun begin...


1 1114 217 148
2 1717 254 384
3 2340 1450 612
4 195 330 40
5 1983 469 2046
6 1089 103 1503
7 494 25 88
8 176 121 8

[Vikesrock]

1114-217-148
1717-254-384
2340-1450-612
195-330-40
1983-469-2046
1089-103-1503
494-25-88
176-121-8

[Tottanka]

wow!
1114,217 and 148!
what an alliance!

[Manoel]

How could 148 go unnoticed 'till the last pick?

Scout, people, scout...

Can we call them 2008 World Champions already?

[Tim Delles]

1. 1114-217-148
2. 1717-254-384
3. 2340-1450-612
4. 195-330-40
5. 1983-469-2046
6. 1089-103-1503
7. 494-25-88
8. 176-121-8

Quarter Finals
#1 def. #8
#2 def. #7 (this could be the other way around though. its tight)
#6 def #3
#4 beats #5

Semi Finals
#1 def #4
#6 def #2

Finals
#1 def #6

And Simbots make it to Einstein for the first time.

[Jonathan Norris]

wow so the 'dream' alliance of 1114, 217, 148 happened... lets see how they do

#2, #4, #6 all look really good