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Need help starting a FTC team

I'm currently trying to start a FTC team but am confused on what I need to buy. I'm trying to set up the budget for sponsorship, but can't find exactly what I need to plan out. I know the general price for going to regionals, but have no idea what I need. I'm also a little confused about the new kit and the need for tooling of metal. There aren't any teams in the area to ask so I turned to CD.

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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

you are starting during an interesting time. FIRST is making some major changes with FTC. You will need ~$1500 to start up. $900 for the new kit, ~$250 for registration and the rest for incidentals . As for tools: the only thing you will need are hands tools, from what I've been told. With the old kit my kids got a lot of use from a Dremel set i can't see that changing.
You may want to talk to your regional FTC director and apply for the $250 grant for the new kit.

Can anyone with experience with the new kit give some more information?
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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

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you are starting during an interesting time. FIRST is making some major changes with FTC. You will need ~$1500 to start up. $900 for the new kit, ~$250 for registration and the rest for incidentals . As for tools: the only thing you will need are hands tools, from what I've been told. With the old kit my kids got a lot of use from a Dremel set i can't see that changing.
You may want to talk to your regional FTC director and apply for the $250 grant for the new kit.

Can anyone with experience with the new kit give some more information?
This is a really good estimate, just what I needed. How should I contact my regional director, is there a listing of them somewhere?

Yeah the FRC is going through many changes also, and I may be using a different programming language next year ! I'm still glad that the kit includes (mostly) everything, I don't have to go out and search for the parts.

Also is there like a kickoff meeting like there is for FRC?

EDIT: Of course there is no regional director for my state...
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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

If there isn't one in your state, go directly to FIRST HQ. As to the kickoff: i don't think there is a big meeting like FRC. They usually send out an email with a link to the description and the animation on a certain date. The time frame for the FTC build season is much longer and relaxed, thank goodness :-)
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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

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If there isn't one in your state, go directly to FIRST HQ. As to the kickoff: i don't think there is a big meeting like FRC. They usually send out an email with a link to the description and the animation on a certain date. The time frame for the FTC build season is much longer and relaxed, thank goodness :-)
Well I rushed the process and emailed a director from a neighboring state, and they will probably tell me to contact HQ.

I guess it's a good thing that there is no meeting, less driving and meetings. Also we have a relaxed season and not a hectic have-to-program-in-two-weeks-season.
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FTC is not available in Michigan.
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FTC is not available in Michigan.
I hear that may be changing...
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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

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FTC is not available in Michigan.
What about the three Cranbrook teams?
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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

There was not a FTC regional in Michigan last year. That does not mean that there cannot be teams in Michigan. You will need to know that you will have to spend more money on travel and lodging to go to a sanctioned event. I'm not really sure that FIRST can disallow a team from a certain state, nor do i think they would. Does anyone know anything to the contrary?
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Re: Need help starting a FTC team

Actually I believe the Michigan Invitatonal held on December 1st actually counted as a valid regional where winners got a pass to Atlanta.
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We had to travel to other regionals in order to qualify.

We went to Wisconsin and Ohio.
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I'm not really sure that FIRST can disallow a team from a certain state, nor do i think they would. Does anyone know anything to the contrary?
It depends on what you mean by "disallow." I'm sure you can start a team in any state. Some regionals discourage out-of-state participants.

Not Washington, though! Our arms are open wide to FTC teams from everywhere. Come and play next season.
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It depends on what you mean by "disallow." I'm sure you can start a team in any state. Some regionals discourage out-of-state participants.

Not Washington, though! Our arms are open wide to FTC teams from everywhere. Come and play next season.
Haha, if we can get funding it will determine where we go, probably just Ohio and Pennsylvania. Atlanta is a crazy goal for us, one that we probably won't reach.

And is there a Michigan Invitational, because if there is it would be really convenient.
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FTC is not available in Michigan.
Don't be ridiculous.... As other folks have sort-of said (let me emphasize it) FTC is "available" everywhere on the planet.

You register your team, you buy a kit, you build, program and test a bot, you register for a competition in a location that appeals to you, you go and have fun.

At no point in the process will anyone ask if you are from Michigan and tell you that you can't participate.

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PS: I remember the poorly worded message that created the false impression that "FTC is not available in Michigan." That was a very poorly worded statement.
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At no point in the process will anyone ask if you are from Michigan and tell you that you can't participate.
Unfortunately, this is not true. PM me and I'll share the name of at least one FTC event that won't let out-of-state teams compete.
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