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View Poll Results: which year?
2001 10 3.60%
2002 16 5.76%
2003 19 6.83%
2004 72 25.90%
2005 41 14.75%
2006 111 39.93%
2007 31 11.15%
2008 21 7.55%
none 5 1.80%
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

I have three:

1999. Seeing all these robots going 8' in the air is a big cool factor. "Easily" adapted to current fields. Just find something better to stuff floppies with. The original alliance game. (My first to see)

2000. Variety of options, tons of fun, way cool robots climbing all over each other.

2005. Strategy was king. the original 3-on-3. The variety of robots was insane. (Doesn't hurt that my team won, but still.)
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

2000 hands down, no contest. Not only was it a great game for us FIRSTers to watch, but it was the one game that would be PERFECT for TV. It was such a simple game to score and to follow, you could figure it out after about two matches, and it was very exciting. The variety of robots also made it extremely interesting to watch.

After that, my favorite game for excitement was definitely 1998.

After those two it gets pretty muddy. I liked 2004 for excitement, but my non-FIRST friends thought it would never fly on TV due to some issues with the scoring, and too much human involvement.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

To do the 2000 game, we would have to mod it for how good teams have gotten. Having the what 20 balls (in the 2000 game) would be a joke to teams like the grasshopper (95). I am not sure a 2000 game would work today. My vote is for the 06 (with footballs) game because you needed all 3 teams to win and the strategy was more like a chess match.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

I've only got personal experience back through Triple Play, and my team's history only goes back through Stack Attack, so I would like to get to know a little more about the games from 1992-2002 where I have very limited knowledge. I like all four I've played, but I think my favorite lies in 2005, which was my first impression of FIRST.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

1999, 2000, or 2002.

1999 because it was way different than lots of other games

2000 because I never got to actually play it (well...saw it cal games my freshman year) and from what I've seen/heard of it, it was simply awesome.

2002 because of Beatty and 60. 'Nuff said.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

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these young whipper snappers just don't know what a FIRST game can be...
walking up hill both sides of the field with no shoes, robots of wood and stone
And when there was 9 planets, right?

Anyhow, I would have loved to be on my team for '04... runner up on Einstein, and my mentors still firmly believe we would have kept 71 off the bar had our window motor not burned out, and then we'd have won the championship.
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And when there was 9 planets, right?
Oh, we had to bring up poor sad old Pluto and just when things were going so well with the stone and wood robots. Oh, and the hill. *sigh*
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

Maize Craze!! Yeah! I want a dot matrix printer.

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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

2006, Aim High was an AWESOME game.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

I'll say 2004... not because the game was any better... all the games have been good, but because of the second part of the question "what would you do differently with your robot".

Well, for starters... we'd make a robot that could turn. With 2004 being our rookie year, and no one on the team ever having attended a FIRST event (our total robot-building experience up to that point was mini-sumo robots that we designed and built in class), and the nearest Canadian FIRST team a couple thousand kilometers away (we didn't know about the Seattle teams then) we really, really had no clue what we were doing.

It would be fun to re-do 2004 with our current knowledge. We'd probably rip off some ideas for the design from 1241's ball catching machine, or 33's incredible ball collection system.

On the other hand, the 2006 game left the best "legacy" in terms of a demo robot that impresses people. With a full pan-tilt nerf cannon we don't have to explain why we are lifting tetrahedrons, or anything like that... we just blast away. The robot is cool by itself, independent of the game. This is not to complain about the '05 game... which had probably the coolest scoring system that I have seen yet. This year's game is pretty good, too, although it bogs down somewhat when teams focus on defense rather than offense.

In the end, though... you can never go back, and I really don't want to. Onward to '09.

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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

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only issue would be hanging.
We saw some robots hanging from the overpass in Boston(not just getting stuck, I mean actually hanging) 1100 was hanging for at least 15 seconds in one match http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=8877 and they did it again in another. There was another team but I don't remember the number.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

2006 was one of my favorite games because it saw the most exiting, brutal, and extreme matches of FIRST it was also one of the most assessable games for the general public. i know many of my non FIRST friends picked up on the game immediately (get the ball in the goal) and were quickly involved in the game, rooting for teams and robots, cheering when that shooter fired off a massive round of balls under heavy defense. the misses, flying off into the crowd, were another awesome symptom of that year, but weren't as brutal as the meteor strikes from trackballs from shooters this year...

overall the simpler games have been the most assessable and energetic of FIRST that i have seen. rack and roll was really cool. raising the bar was a great game because the crowd would cheer and applaud the sweet hangers, as well as the cappers. overdrive was fun due to the high speed and simple scoring (laps and hurdles 148, 118, 1114, im looking at you) as well as the rush for places at the end (330's knock and place comes to mind) made for an assessable and fun game

my vote is still for 2006, although 2004 and 2008 come close second
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

2000 hands down was by far the best game. (it was not a choice)

Balls, Stealing, scoring, ramp, tipped robots, limbo bar and hanging all in one game.

My opinion... not influenced by the fact we won three regionals mind you.
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Re: If You could bring back one game, for 1 season in 09 what would it be?

Well I guess I will chime in for the record and say something that might surprise many. I will go with 2005 "Triple Play" I think that was by far my favorite game post 2001. It had lots of elements that I think make a good game, it was easy to see how was winning, it was easily captured in a still photograph, it had exciting defense. Sadly though it marked somewhat of a beginning of the penalty happy mentality that the GDC seems to be in these last few years. I say less penalties and let teams play. In real life, which FIRST claims to mimic, sometimes people get pushed around, sometimes robots flip over.

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