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Unread 14-06-2008, 10:38
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

Wow Craig, I'm at a loss for how to reply. I for one, will miss seeing you around CD. I have always appreciated your input on subjects that you post on.
I must say, I didn't realize the you were dealing with the battles that you mentioned above. Maybe that is because you had the GP, and wisdom, not to air those issues publicly. THANK YOU!!!
It seems from your comments that your style of thinking outside the box, considering alternative approaches, attempting to do things in an unconventional way and having the courage to talk about it has gotten you in trouble. Well I say, KEEP DOING IT!!!! That style of thinking is where genius resides and flourishes.

If you ever want to work with a team again, look me up. The teams in this area could definitely use your support and experience, and we love the unconventional. Besides, Sacramento is not that far away.
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

You will be missed.

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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

The community will miss you, your vast knowledge and amazing CAD work. Best of luck on your future projects and goals.

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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

I don't think it's right that people have been rude enough to make you feel that you have to leave, here or your on your team. I don't believe I've had much of anything bad said about me, but to think that people would to it in here slightly disgusts me. Enough bad things are said about robotics people as it is, why turn on ourselves and make our colleauges and, for me, family feel not welcome. Man, I'm sorry you have to go. In the words of the Rugrats, "You gotta do what ya gotta do!"
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

Stay.

Edit: "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

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Stay.

Edit:"Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved."
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Again, Jane gives the best advice yet!
Ditto!
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

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Stay.

Edit: "Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering
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All the adversity I've had in my life, all my troubles and obstacles, have strengthened me... You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you. -- Walt Disney

Craig,

If you choose to leave then 'they' have won. I understand the feelings (PM me for my political issues I've faced in the last 4 months) but to leave only strengthens those who do not understand what GP really is all about.

GP is a code which is lived by, not a yardstick to measure others by.

I'm sorry if some have tried to judge you (using 'GP' as their yardstick ... again PM me about this, I know how you feel) but now is the time to stand up to 'them', because it's easy to be a leader when things go right, but it shows the true mettle of a leader when you feel you are being tested by those you have respected and looked up to.

CD is a place for discussion of ideas, even ones that are not popular. If you do choose to leave I will miss your posts and your skills and FIRST will have lost a good person. It is my hope that you reconsider.
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Unread 15-06-2008, 20:44
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

Oh come on guys, he's moving on with his life. Despite what some people have thought, this is healthy and good. It's not good to stay around leeching off that once great feeling of competing in HS. I wish Craig all the luck in the world and I know he will do great things and make engineering more interesting and inspire others, with or without FIRST.
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Oh come on guys, he's moving on with his life. Despite what some people have thought, this is healthy and good. It's not good to stay around leeching off that once great feeling of competing in HS. I wish Craig all the luck in the world and I know he will do great things and make engineering more interesting and inspire others, with or without FIRST.
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

Craig, You will be missed. Your CAD drawings have helped me understand some of the most complex systems in FIRST. I've always looked up to you because you were one of the very few to challenge people here. And you did it in such a way that was professional beyond anyone I've ever met our age. You've also been one of the very few to challenge the politics of CD and FIRST in general. We all see it happen and we let it happen. I've seen many of your posts labeled by others as UN-GP and I think that they're fine and they're within the what is right on the topic. But they must be read throughly to be understood. I'm sad to see you go, you will be missed by many.
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

First off, I hate to see you go. As stated above, I think that a break is healthy if that is what you are after. At my high school, I was the best draftsmen for two years. There was only one in the school I considered my equal in skill. You, however, have always been my goal. I would love to compete against you in CAD despite my certainty of defeat. It would just be an honor.

Secondly, I can't think of a single thing you have said that was the least bit GP and I would like to defy anyone here to find me a post worthy of a red dot.

In my opinion: If you aren't willing to get attacked for your opinions, then they aren't very strong opinions and are not worth having.

WARNING: Any of you that thinks that you can control GP by annoying any who disagree, know that there will always be another that appears where the other has left. Know, that though you might have gotten rid of Craig, I have no intention of letting his ideals leave with him.

Anyone who wants, give me red dots. I've worked hard to earn them. I've been careful to make sure my every word was kind. Making sure to make no enemies. I will not be doing this in the future. In the past I've let annoyances slide, but this is the last straw. I, for one, take your attacks upon Craig as attacks upon the community and myself. I will not forget.

You and I have never met, but I am certain that if we went to the same school, we would have been good friends.
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

In reply to everyone who is relating this to dots, just a reminder, that's all they are, dots. They have no power over your attitude, personality, or beliefs.
Craig, I am going to miss you. I have always looked up to your points of view as you have brought in some interesting ones that have made me think. I wish you would stay, but if you feel this is what you need to do then this is what you need to do. Just remember, don't let that 5% of people ruin the other 95% of us.
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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

you will be missed. your perspective on FIRST and the things that are involved with it are ones i look up to. ive been in situations where the lack of knowing what GP is has gotten to a point to where im moving on im with you in your fight and someday it will get better.

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Re: Farewell, Chief Delphi.

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Anyone who wants, give me red dots. I've worked hard to earn them. I've been careful to make sure my every word was kind.

Making sure to make no enemies.

I will not be doing this in the future. In the past I've let annoyances slide, but this is the last straw. I, for one, take your attacks upon Craig as attacks upon the community and myself. I will not forget.
I know for a fact that many people do not see eye to eye with me (take my views on GP), and I couldn't have said it any better.

You will always make enemies whenever you post because not everyone agrees on the same things.

Don't change for anyone.

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You will always make enemies whenever you post because not everyone agrees on the same thing.
I'm not of the belief that this is the intent or purpose of Chief Delphi. It is a place for sharing knowledge and information, perspectives, and humor. In the process, it has created community.

Sharing opinions can present different perspectives, viewpoints, and experiences. The opinions can be presented clearly and appropriately and the threads do not have to spin themselves into ugly exchanges and rudeness. Each poster can bring respect to the topic, whether agreeing with it or not. And, people can refrain from posting and keep their thoughts to themselves if they have nothing of value to contribute or are intent on flaming. That can take a little will power and self-control but that's ok, too.

If I receive red reps, I consider the source, decide if I I feel I merited them, and move on. I do that with green ones as well.
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