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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

Well, our first two robots, from '03 and '04 are long gone. They got demolished for parts. '05 is a skeleton, but if we put the compressor, motors, etc. back in it would probably work. From '06 on, we save the competition bot and take the practice bot apart at the start of the next year's build season. We play, practice, train drivers, teach members, demonstrate, and show off with our 3-peat bots.

With the exception of the current year's practice robot, the working robots are stored at our practice facility, because we don't have room in our school's workshop. Plus, we can practice our defense with the old bots and prepare our drivers for the New England defense they'll see at the regional.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

At the beginning of the season. The first order is to dissassemble the old robot. We do not have the space nor money to keep the old robot and build new one, so the metal gets recycled, and we salvage what we can.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

330 has kept robots for a while now, but also takes parts from them--in order:
1997: not sure
1998: Somewhere at JPL
1999: In pieces somewhere...
2000: The "hook" on that, along with the upper stage of the lift, are in one shop; the rest is...
2001: Frame together, turntable together in another place. Stopped working for the last time in 2003.
2002: We'll never get that one completely apart... Doesn't run, but mostly together in one shop.
2003: Joins 2002, but might run again if the gearboxes were maintained.
2004: Still running, but it's been used as a practice/defense robot for some time now. Parts have been removed; the lift no longer runs due to motor removal for use in 2005 competition.
2005: Runnable, though not in competition form. Should be restored, but not sure when that'll happen.
2006: Running, used as defense.
2007: Running, though used as practice robot.
2008: Running.

1135, on the other hand, only has space for one or two FRC robots. Non-performers that aren't current get taken apart, save for 2003 (stolen).
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

I'll do an auto biography style of what we do.

Chapter 1: There once was this robot named Rack Star, no one knew of this robot as it was born in the young minds of students early in January. For 6 weeks, rack star began to grow, learn, and play with it's older siblings. Finally, the time came when it was time for the robot to move on. The young Rackstar then moved into a small mobile home, where it traveled all around the country to and play with those just like it. The young Rack Star attended concerts, and listened to those who commanded it following in the rock in roll way. In the end, feeling homesick, it traveled back to its birth place to settle down.

Chapter 2: Rackstar stayed in his birth home for many months until his parents returned to clean it up (finally lol). Rackstar started getting moved to different buildings, letting those like his parents see him run. He would have fun every now and then by running full blast toward a person, then stopping suddenly. Soon, one of these viewing gained him new parents to learn everything about him.

Chapter 3: Rackstar's first birthday had finally come! And a new robot was born. His parents then began to put him through the hardest few weeks ever as they started using him for drivers practice. Hamtray, Rackstar's younger brother then began to live the same life he did, following in his footsteps. After Hamtray took off in Rackstar's old moble home, rackstar sat in his birth home for a few months. Every now and then, while Hamtray was on his own tour, Rackstar would be taken to different places to show himself off. Rackstar was getting old however, and there were a lot of pieces starting to fall off.

Chapter 4: Hamtray returned from his tour, and began being taken around to show off himself. Rackstar then joined the "Gutted" weight loss system, loosing all of his electronics and pneumatics for use on back up robots in the future. His parents love him dearly, and they have created a memorial for him, and those older siblings of his to proudly stand for all to see.

Please note, both Rackstar and Hamtray had twin siblings, and their stories are no where near the same!
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

We have every robot we're ever made except for our '92 robot which is now property of FIRST robotics and on display at FIRST Place. The other robots are on permanent display at our robotics site in our museum. We use them whenever we begin the design process all over again to learn what will work and what won't. We use our previous year's robot for demos and practice until the practice bot is complete which is used to design the new year's prototype.
We never dispose our old robots and we try to avoid cannibalizing the robots as much as possible.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

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We have every robot we're ever made except for our '92 robot which is now property of FIRST robotics and on display at FIRST Place. The other robots are on permanent display at our robotics site in our museum. We use them whenever we begin the design process all over again to learn what will work and what won't. We use our previous year's robot for demos and practice until the practice bot is complete which is used to design the new year's prototype.
We never dispose our old robots and we try to avoid cannibalizing the robots as much as possible.
Pretty much the same here, except we have our '92 bot and we cannibalize our electronics to save money. But we have some demo bots specifically like the meccanum bot and the mecannon bot (rackstar's twin with a t-shirt cannon and meccanum wheels).
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

We usualy just cannibalize our robots for the next year but the past few years we have customized our robots into fun things. We have turned out '07 bot into a humaniod looking robot called Mr. Burgato for out mentor Mr. Burg and we have even more recently turned our '06 bot into a rideable go cart, we put joysticks on the robot so a person can drive the robot while sitting on top of it (pictures comming soon), it is very fun to drive and lights up little kids faces.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

On 1618:
2005: The rails and end caps are assembled; that's about it.
2006: It hasn't been run since I joined the team (and, if the sources are to be believed, it didn't run well when it did run), but it's all physically together. We keep talking of overhauling it, but plans haven't ever quiiiiiite made it to fruition.
2007 (Uppercut): We changed the arm to pneumatics (Uppercut now can only deliver an uppercut to the particularly short), and the gripper still doesn't work, but it's driving and together. We removed some superfluous electrical components along with the arm conversion.
2008 (Speedy Debris): Exactly how we left it at Chesapeake. I'm hoping we can get something together in the off-season for it.

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2004 (Bob): Just the frame remains.
2005 (Ockham's Raizor): Only the frame and side panels remain; much of the 80/20 of its lift was used on Atlas.
2006 (Chomp): Stripped to the drive base. The practice robot's mechanism is still around, though.
2007 (Atlas): Still around and running (though not necessarily turning).
2008 (R5D5): Still in one piece, last I heard.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

They work great as prototypes! Salvaging the drivetrains from past robots to speed up the testing process is immensely useful. We used the 2007 robot last year to test out our mechanisms early in the build season. An interesting side effect is that our designs end up being very modular...

Our modified 2007 bot on the left, and our nearly finished 2008 bot on the right. They're almost twins!
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

Last I checked...
Minus pillaged electronics, '05 is still around, '06 and (I think) '07 are completely gone, and '08 is still there unless the team was capable of doing a complete teardown of the robot in five minutes the day the robot got back.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

None of our past robots are in working condition. We often strip them for the axles and sprockets.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

2005 - Disassembled, the lift is still together.

2006 - Assembled (For now). Does not run.

2007 (Competition Robot)- Assembled and working. Used for defense and demos.

2007 (Practice Robot) - Disassembled, used for off-season/build season prototyping. Cannibalized for spares.

2008 (Competition Robot) - Assembled and working. Currently on display at county fair.

2008 (Practice Robot) - In two pieces (lift and drivetrain). Cannibalized for spares. Being used for off-season prototyping.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

Wow, you guys, thanks for all of your answers! I'm new to CD, and I am amazed at how fast people reply. Of course, there's over a million members. Of course, being new, I did a total noobish thing and didn't search. Only until after I posted, I noticed that there were about 5 other threads about this same thing. And, I stupidly didn't read the things in the "read these first" sticky before I made this thread.

But, oh well; there thankfully isn't too much damage done. We were all noobs once.

It seems that most people use the old parts, keep the robots for demonstration purposes, or recycle the metal parts. I like the recycling idea. We don't have a lot of space for our robot(s) at our school, so one of the reasons I made this thread was find out some reasons for getting rid of the parts. Donating, recycling, throwing away.

Any more ideas for our situation would be great, thanks so much.
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

We use to keep our in one of our mentor's basement, but he moved so now they are sitting at one of our sponsor's shops
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Re: What do you guys do with your old robots?

We keep all our robots and have only this past year begun to use old old speed controllers and such.

1999- was cannibalized
2000- classroom, missing one wheel, control system, and has lost it's speed controllers for the fixing of other old robots.
2001-class room, missing one gear for drive-train and control system.
2002-class room, Missing parts of control system, other than that, it all turns on and appears to be in working health.
2003-Classroom, Fully Functional
2004-classroom-gear box has one cim working on each side (the drill motors burned out on each side) Also the tower extends but does not rotate, due to faulty speed controller.
2005-Classroom, missing 2 wheels(lost at main Mech mentor's house, aka Mike D's) tower rotates but does not extend due to fault speed controller or two.
2006-classroom, fully functional except for rollers which have been turned off for demos due to the noise factor.
2007-is at the highschool w/o a classroom, that is also fully functional
2008-Driver's house to practice, last I heard. Fully functional, and possibly to be improved b4 IRI

We use our robots for several things. One, kids on our team look at them, mess with them, take them apart, put them back together, and fix them when they break while being practiced with. This helps the new kids learn lots and lots and see how it all comes together before build season starts.

Also, many students learn and practice programming by taking home old robots to practice all kinds of programming.

Also, we use them to practice like crazy during build season, and also at other times like before an offseason or two.

Demos, are probably the biggest use of the old robots as year round we try our best to do things by ourselves and often with other teams from nearby to show our communities what FIRST robotics is all about, and how valuable of a resource it is.
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