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Re: New FIRST competition structure in Michigan

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What do you think?

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For Michigan teams and the future of FIRST, this looks great.

But like all plans such as these, the devil is in the details and execution of such plans ... and we have yet to see either. Good luck to MI FIRST and to all the Michigan teams ... I believe it's going to be a wild ride.
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Re: New FIRST competition structure in Michigan

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First, I think that the announcement should have been made much earlier, like last year, or the changes should be put off until 2010. Plans have been made. Grants have been written. We are going to have to scramble to accommodate the changes.

Second, although FIRST is knocking $1,000 off of the registration fees, this could end up costing our team a bit more than the traditional system. Our team is struggling financially. We will not be able to pay the fee to attend the State Championship which will be in our own back yard, but we will (apparently) have to travel to two other cities for district competitions.
  • No one on our team owns a vehicle that can carry a crated robot, so we are going to incur expense to either ship it or rent something to carry it or pay someone to drive it.
  • We will have to pay for a school bus to transport the team to and from events or parents will have to drive. (our school system does not give us free use of buses) The bus ride to Kettering Kick-off in 2007 cost us over $400 for one day.
  • We definitely can't afford to stay overnight in whatever city it is, so we will have to drive back at night and return in the morning.
Two weekends of this will more than eat up the $1000 break in the entry fee.

I think the idea of smaller localized competitions has merit, but needs more work.

The idea of a team in every school is great too, if there are resources: There are now three FRC teams in Ypsilanti. I can't speak for the other two, but my team (on the eve of it's 10th season) is in totally desperate need of mentors and money. We have not had a major corporate sponsor since 2004 (not for lack of trying) and are only surviving by our own fundraising efforts and the kindness of ITT Tech and more recently Hyundai America, and mentoring by talented parents of former members. As others have said, it would be good if FIRST could help to strengthen the teams that exist.

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Re: New FIRST competition structure in Michigan

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Our team is struggling financially.
Although I do agree with your statements about how this system may hurt some teams, and not to be rude, but have you actually asked the other teams in your area for help is attaining sponsors? I know for a fact that The Flyers (66) are in your area and that they are one of the kindest teams around. Give them a call if you haven't already and just ask. Take a stretch and even give a call to some other Michigan teams. They will help.


Take a look at all these teams...just hit ctrl F and search "MI"

http://usfirst.org/whatsgoingon.aspx

And please, let us know if you need help. Its what we're all here for. Do not take that quality of FIRST for granted.
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Take a stretch and even give a call to some other Michigan teams. They will help.
We have good relationships with several other Michigan teams including The Flyers. We host many of the teams at the Ypsilanti Heritage Festival FIRST Demo every summer. Funding and the need for professional mentors are frequent topics of discussion whenever we are together, and no one from any team has ever given me the impression that they had either mentors or sponsors to spare. Team 470 has "loaned" mentors to another team to help them over a "hump" once, but not on a permanent basis. All the teams help each other as they can.

It would make sense for the Ypsilanti teams to combine transportation to wherever the district competitions are this year. That would reduce the cost to each team, and I'm certainly going to suggest it. Knowing where the district competitions will be and if we have a choice or will be assigned to certain ones would be very helpful. I hope the information is released soon.
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