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Re: pic: Jaguar next to Victor
I actually wouldn't but surprised if a team has done that before. But I've had the head of my electrical team throw a battery across the shop after the mech team decided to move it for the 4th time.. in a weak... planning more space for electronics will be important this year.
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Re: pic: Jaguar next to Victor
Electronics boards are going to get a lot more interesting. I'm expecting to see a lot more vertically oriented layouts this coming year.
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I hope the folks writing the manual are reading this, & seeing our concerns in the size/weight difference being placed upon us with the introduction of the new control system.
I'm sure they realized this already, but if not, then right here in this post, I am officially documenting the first call to the GDC/Game & Robot potion of the 2009 Manual writing crew to boost up size & weight requirements for next year. Not by much, but just a little bit. I don't want to see double sized bots, but an extra few inches & pounds would be greatly appreciated! Please? (Btw, anyone know a weight difference between just 1 Victor vs. 1 Jaguar?) |
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Just make the drive base taller to fit your new hardware - no more compact, elegant designs - BOX BOTS FOR EVERYONE! Last edited by Travis Hoffman : 07-08-2008 at 15:35. |
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The footprint of the Victor looks like it could fit over the fan part on the Jaguar.
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Whatever the size and weight, we'll survive. I for one will consider the Jaguar a victory if it works consistently without having to nail polish the PWM cable in.
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In other news, this will be the year of legitimate OMG XBOX HUGE!!1! jokes.
What I am most concerned about though, is why they apparently wasted so much time making an eye-candy case when they could have devoted that time to instead making it smaller. (Whether or not the case is square and boxy or more streamlined than a 1950s toaster makes no difference on its performance.) I would rather give up all the whiz-bang features of the Jaguar in all but a limited number of applications for the more practical, space-saving features of the Victors. |
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Maybe we will be allowed to remove the outer case for space saving reasons if we want to but under the "user beware" sort of rule.Quote:
I think we should all just wait and see what happens between now an January. FIRST teams have a pretty good history of doing some amazing things within the limits they are given to work with. Whatever happens with the whole new control system including these new speed controllers will just be part of the limits we are given to work with. I suspect the pros will outweigh the cons but only time will tell. |
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Re: pic: Jaguar next to Victor
I've seen pretty unique ways of mounting electronics this year such as creating hidden cavities for different parts or having systems mounted higher up on frames. It just presents another challenge that teams should be able to hurdle over pretty easily.
EG of cool electronics mount: team 1323 http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/30011 |
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Re: pic: Jaguar next to Victor
Our electrician this past year fit all of the electronics into slightly less than a square foot of space. Definitely will not happen next year.
Really though, I hope that FIRST will simply allow us more options next year. Allow people to use either these new ones or the old victors. Also, I don't know if this has been posted anywhere, but is there a price on these yet? Victors can be expensive enough. I can't see these being cheaper. |
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I'd have been happier if it had been made to fit on a DIN rail. This blobular design doesn't seem to take compact layout into consideration. Having connections on three sides won't make it easy to fit them closely.
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Re: pic: Jaguar next to Victor
in my opinion, the jaguar just doesn't look as nice as the victors. im sure that along with all other electronics this year, it will be much more accurate, so i guess that is a good thing. the size of this control system is really starting to worry me...
looking at the picture, it seems like we are getting new joysticks! |
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