Sport or not?

[Cow Bell Solo]

I was wondering from those on CD what your opinion is on this.

People argue against me saying that robotics ISN'T a sport while I think it does, I think one other person on the team agrees with me but I want to hear your opinions and maybe some reasoning why or why not.

[Michelle Celio]

Originally Posted by Cow Bell Solo

I was wondering from those on CD what your opinion is on this.

People argue against me saying that robotics ISN'T a sport while I think it does, I think one other person on the team agrees with me but I want to hear your opinions and maybe some reasoning why or why not.

Try searching, there have been plenty of threads on this matter.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ighlight=SPort is one of them.

[Laaba 80]

I dont consider robotics a sport, but I do consider tournaments a sporting event. Saying robotics is a little to general to be called a sport. If you would ask is Overdrive a sport, I would probably say yes. When I think of a sport I think of a game such as football or baseball. Robotics isnt really a game, but Overdrive is.
Joey

[=Martin=Taylor=]

Sports are not Robotics


Thats all that matters...

[sgreco]

I'll just say one thing...


If robotics is a sport, it's the best one there is.

If it's not...It's still awesome!

[AndyB]

I think if you can consider NASCAR to be a sport, then calling FIRST a sport isn't too much of a stretch. However, you need to consider the differences in sport and FIRST. The goal of a sport is to win.

[artdutra04]

I've been to some of Dean's speeches to mostly industry leaders and executives, and he explicitly refers to FRC as a sport there.

[tennispro9911]

I'd imagine that Dean refers to robotics as a sport because sports is the closest analogy to FIRST that most people have.

FIRST is not a sport. Robotics is not a sport. Overdrive is not a sport. That would be degrading it. However, it depends how you define sport, because if you define sport very liberally, it might be considered a sport. I also, personally don't consider NASCAR, or things like chess sports, but this thread isn't about that.

[JaneYoung]

This is from the FIRST website. FRC is being marketed as sport.

[Jeff K.]

If we put aside any other negative or positive connotations with sport and look at the definition. Other sports like baseball, football, running, cycling, or basketball may have blemished the term sport. In the past, I've done baseball, lacrosse, swimming, and cycling. Although FIRST is nowhere near as physically extreneous as these sports, there are physical aspects to it.

Some people do sport also to train, get in shape, or meet others. To this definition, FIRST applies, train for the future, get in shape with tools and mallets, and meeting others on your team and other teams.

Another definition of Sport is:
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Human players do get fairly physical, and so do drivers as they get robots on and off the field and while driving. The pit crew joins them in getting physical as they work on the robot. Scouts get physical as they go around the pits. Rules, game rules we are given each year.

Another definition:
One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of a game, or of a difficult situation.
ex: What a good sport, he shook the hands of the opposing team after the game.
Sounds like something FIRST has been trying to teach.

According to these definitions, FIRST is a sport. According to my definition of a fun recreational activity, FIRST is a sport as well. Play on!

[EricVanWyk]

Originally Posted by tennispro9911

I'd imagine that Dean refers to robotics as a sport because sports is the closest analogy to FIRST that most people have.

FIRST is not a sport. Robotics is not a sport. Overdrive is not a sport. That would be degrading it. However, it depends how you define sport, because if you define sport very liberally, it might be considered a sport. I also, personally don't consider NASCAR, or things like chess sports, but this thread isn't about that.

Sir, allow me to violently agree with you for a moment.

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports (a common name for some card games and board games with little to no element of chance) and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors. (--Wikipedia)

Professional Baseball/football/etc are degrading to other sports. Some folks down play the word "sport" in association with FIRST because of this popular degradation.

[thehurd03]

FIRST IS NOT A SPORT!

First IS an addiction, obsession, and an enslavement,

But best of all it's the way of life we all have chosen to follow.

[AdamHeard]

Hmmmmm,

I've always considered a sport a physical thing, and haven't really considered FIRST a sport ever.

However, it still is an exciting, competitive event. So, the title really doesn't matter to me.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Michelle Celio

Try searching, there have been plenty of threads on this matter.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ighlight=SPort is one of them.

Actually no Michelle, that isn't what that thread is about. That is a different discussion weighing the pros and cons of FIRST's culture becoming sport-like. It's not a debate as to whether or not FIRST is a sport.

[EricH]

If ESPN shows it, it's a "sport", right? If so, poker is a sport (definition-wise, it's a game). FIRST beats poker at being a sport. (Not to mention that ESPN used to show FIRST championships, IIRC.)

Different people will see it different ways. I think it's a sport for the mind.