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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

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Regional dates are now on http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...ts.aspx?id=430 but the capacity is not listed.

Does this make it official?
Capacities are posted.
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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

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Atlanta, GA DATE 4/16/2009 - 4/18/2009
Pending Teams: 0 Open Capacity: 190


This is from the FIRST website. Does anyone know if the 190 capacity is a typo or is it legit?
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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

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Atlanta, GA DATE 4/16/2009 - 4/18/2009
Pending Teams: 0 Open Capacity: 190


This is from the FIRST website. Does anyone know if the 190 capacity is a typo or is it legit?
I would assume that the remainder of the typical 340-ish team capacity is reserved for regional qualifiers, last year's champs, CA, previous CA, and Michigan qualifiers. That's another 130+ teams.
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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

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I would assume that the remainder of the typical 340-ish team capacity is reserved for regional qualifiers, last year's champs, CA, previous CA, and Michigan qualifiers. That's another 130+ teams.
I would assume that as well except that in the past they have normally just listed the max capacity, not the capcity for the teams that don't qualify. This just seemed a little off to me thats all. I won't speculate what the 190 max number could mean.
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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

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FIRST Championship
Atlanta, GA DATE 4/16/2009 - 4/18/2009
Pending Teams: 0 Open Capacity: 190


This is from the FIRST website. Does anyone know if the 190 capacity is a typo or is it legit?
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I would assume that the remainder of the typical 340-ish team capacity is reserved for regional qualifiers, last year's champs, CA, previous CA, and Michigan qualifiers. That's another 130+ teams.
The style would indicate "Open Registration Capacity", as the Michigan Championship has "Open Capacity: 0". But 41 regionals could generate as many as 246 qualifiers (3 winners, Chairmans, EI, Rookie). Add 18 from Michigan, plus about 15 or so pre-qualifiers (HoF, 2008 champs, etc) and you're up to an event of nearly 480! FIRST is counting on some teams qualifying from more than one regional, and other qualifiers being pre-paid (part of the 190). I'm sure they base that on past experience.
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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

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The style would indicate "Open Registration Capacity", as the Michigan Championship has "Open Capacity: 0". But 41 regionals could generate as many as 246 qualifiers (3 winners, Chairmans, EI, Rookie). Add 18 from Michigan, plus about 15 or so pre-qualifiers (HoF, 2008 champs, etc) and you're up to an event of nearly 480! FIRST is counting on some teams qualifying from more than one regional, and other qualifiers being pre-paid (part of the 190). I'm sure they base that on past experience.
Or else we're about to see a change in qualification methods... I think you're right, though. For example, 148 has two slots (original and 2008 champion). Then again, FIRST is still showing the 2008 criteria.

Oh, and there are a few more than 15 pre-qualifiers. There are at least 25 (and growing by one each year).

So 246+18+25+190= 479 teams. However, there are these factors:

--Double-qualifying, where a team gets more than one slot.
--Drop-out, where a team qualifies but can't make it.
--Wait-list, used to deal with the above... maybe not this year.
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Re: 2009 Official Regional Dates?

Easier to read list:

Code:
Regional Name		Location		Week	Capacity
BAE Granite state	Manchester, NH		1	38
Buckeye			Cleveland, OH		1	54
Greater Kansas city	Kansans City, MO	1	54
Midwest			Chicago, IL		1	45
New Jersey		Trenton, NJ		1	53
Oklahoma City		Oklahoma City, OK	1	50
Washington D.C.		Washington, DC		1	54

Boston			Boston, MA		2	40
Finger Lakes		Rochester, NY		2	44
Oregon			Portland, OR		2	54
San Diego		San Diego, CA		2	42
New York City		New York, NY		2	54

Dallas			Dallas, TX		3	44
Florida			Orlando, FL		3	54
Los Angeles		Long Beach, CA		3	54
Peachtree		Duluth, GA		3	38
PIttsburgh		Pittsburgh, PA		3	29
Silicon Valley		San Jose, CA		3	38
Wisconsin		Milwaukee, WI		3	54

Israel			Tel Aviv, IS		3.5	40

Arizona			Phoenix, AZ		4	54
Bayou			New Orleans, LA		4	44
Boilermaker		West Lafayette, IN	4	30
Chesapeake		Annapolis, MD		4	54
NASA/VCU		Richmond, VA		4	54
New Zealand		Aukland, New Zealand	4	32
Philadelphia		Philadelphia, PA	4	46
St. Louis		St. Louis, MO		4	54
Waterloo		Waterloo, ON		4	20

Colorado		Denver, CO		5	38
Connecticut		Hartford, CT		5	54
Greater Toronto		Mississauga, ON		5	54
Hawaii			Honolulu, HI		5	41
Las Vegas		Las Vegas, NV		5	41
Lone Star		Houston, TX		5	54
Microsoft Seattle	Seattle, WA		5	40
Palmetto		Clemson, SC		5	26
Sacramento		Davis, CA		5	32
SBPLI Long Island	Hempstead, NY		5	37

Minnesota 10,000 Lakes	Minneapolis, MN		6	40
Minnesota Northstar	Minneapolis, MN		6	40
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