Size and Weight of Components

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Madison

I don't care very much at all about what magic happens inside to make the robots go -- but I have to find a place to stick all of this stuff on our new and old machines.

Can one of the beta test teams please share information about the overall dimensions and weight of each of the components?

It's significantly bigger and heavier than the old stuff. I can get you some dimensions tomorrow, but we just finished mounting everything to our robot, so no weights unfortunately.

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by Cory

It's significantly bigger and heavier than the old stuff. I can get you some dimensions tomorrow, but we just finished mounting everything to our robot, so no weights unfortunately.

We're a little slower than most. We will be starting to mount the new stuff on Saturday. We are planning to weigh the parts as we go. While the new parts are definitely bigger, they are not that much bigger.

We are using our 08 practice 'bot, which like our real 'bot, has two decks for electronics. For the demo 'bot we need to increase the size of the upper deck. It will now be the same size as our competition 'bot's. We also need to re-arrainge some things but that is to be expected.

Bottom line: yes the stuff is larger, but it is not huge. The change should be managable for most robots.

[The Lucas]

Since I sent these dimensions in an email discussion (electrical board layout) yesterday, I'll copypasta them here

Part Size Website(source)
cRio 11" x 3.5" x 2.5" http://first.wpi.edu/FRC/crio.html
Digital Sidecar 3" x 5" x 1" http://first.wpi.edu/FRC/digitalsidecar.html
Power Distro board 9" x 5.75" x 1.75" http://first.wpi.edu/FRC/powerdistribution.html
Linksys WGA600N Gaming adaptor 4.33" x 4.33" x 1.26" http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...=4757740536B02

I guessed the gaming adapter from beta tester 1629's youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8WE2i6GnXU
I think the camera is the Axis 206 and is 3,35" x 2,17" x 1,34" according to this website http://www.axis.com/products/cam_206/dimensions.htm

Again, I have never personally measured these components, just going off of website specs. Hopefully, a beta team can check these numbers and add some weights. Spec weights are available if you follow the links (just remember to add the modules and bumpers on the cRio) I wonder if we can remove unused parts for weight? We will just have to wait for the new rules.

[EricH]

The question was asked yesterday on the public forum. The answer (for size) is best found at http://forums.usfirst.org/showpost.p...98&postcount=3

[ChrisH]

OK the data you have all been waiting for:

cRio with 5 modules 1740gm
cRio with no modules 910gm
9201 module 130gm
9403 module 130gm
9472 module 130gm
analog bumper 25gm
pneumatics bumper 25gm
Distribution Block 727gm
Digital Side Car 95gm
Digital Side Car Cable 190gm
Radio 135gm

All weights are +or- 5gm as that is the tolerance on the balance we used. For dimensions I would refer to the CAD files mentioned above. Note that there are many required components such as victors and main breakers that are not on this list. The camera and related equipment are still on our demo board. They will be weighed when we move them to the robot, but that won't be for a while yet. I will eventually post this on the official forum, but there seems to be an issue with my ID.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by ChrisH

analog bumper 25gm
pneumatics bumper 25gm

Neither of these weights include the muzzle, which should be on the final versions. Although the added weight should be negligible.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by ChrisH

OK the data you have all been waiting for:

cRio with 5 modules 1740gm
cRio with no modules 910gm
9201 module 130gm
9403 module 130gm
9472 module 130gm
analog bumper 25gm
pneumatics bumper 25gm
Distribution Block 727gm
Digital Side Car 95gm
Digital Side Car Cable 190gm
Radio 135gm

All weights are +or- 5gm as that is the tolerance on the balance we used. For dimensions I would refer to the CAD files mentioned above. Note that there are many required components such as victors and main breakers that are not on this list. The camera and related equipment are still on our demo board. They will be weighed when we move them to the robot, but that won't be for a while yet. I will eventually post this on the official forum, but there seems to be an issue with my ID.

Does anyone know how this total compares to an IFI RC, radio and the two breaker panels? Also, am I correct in those being the equivalent amount of equipment.

[EricVanWyk]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Does anyone know how this total compares to an IFI RC, radio and the two breaker panels? Also, am I correct in those being the equivalent amount of equipment.

The PD is fulfills the same functions as 2 of the 40A breaker blocks, 1 of the 12 slot 20/30A breaker blocks, the rockwell block, and the backup battery.

The cRIO includes drivers for 8 solenoids, which would normally be handled by up to 4 spikes.

[Joe Ross]

For the IFI system:

Robot Controller: 330 grams
2007 or 2008 radio: 175 grams
Backup Battery: 165 grams
Spike: 50 grams
Breaker panel: 120 grams
Rockwell Power Distribution Block: 160 grams
40 amp breaker panel: 300 grams

[Ellery]

Just Curious - Has FIRST mentioned what will not be provided year over year in the controller kit? So if you start out with a full set - they won't send you another cRIO kit the following year?

Just wondering what other people have heard.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Ellery

Just Curious - Has FIRST mentioned what will not be provided year over year in the controller kit? So if you start out with a full set - they won't send you another cRIO kit the following year?

Just wondering what other people have heard.

http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2008...ol-system.html

[NickE]

Originally Posted by The Lucas

Part Size Website(source)
cRio 11" x 3.5" x 2.5" http://first.wpi.edu/FRC/crio.html"

Just a reminder: as it mentions here, the cRio is 6" tall with modules in it

It would probably be wise to add at least 1.5-2 inches to that dimension to account for the various items that plug in to the top