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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

Hachiban I think they may be thinking something along those lines.
At the moment every month is a Vex competion.

I am not sure if any teams will go over to other regionals. It'll depend on cost etc.

It would also depend if First holds an official kickoff here.

I don't know if the teams would go just to watch even if they had the money.

Jason does make a good point about getting more time to learn next year with out the pressure. Hopefully they will put on some more mentor training.

We have a school year that runs from late January until early December. So may be next year we could spread the training / fund raising.

Here's a question for you guys.

Do you have on your teams, students who have basic metal working skills such as turning metal on a lathe, milling machine operation etc. I am not thinking about the whole team but maybe a couple of people on the build team or do you tend to use mentors or outside companies?

Thanks for all your support. I must admit to being disapointed as I had hoped to be making that trip to Atlanta.

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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

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Here's a question for you guys.

Do you have on your teams, students who have basic metal working skills such as turning metal on a lathe, milling machine operation etc. I am not thinking about the whole team but maybe a couple of people on the build team or do you tend to use mentors or outside companies?

Thanks for all your support. I must admit to being disapointed as I had hoped to be making that trip to Atlanta.

Brent
Brent,
Each team is different but most teams have students working on machines. It depends on the insurance structure and school district policy. Most would agree, the maximum benefit is with students working next to mentors. It is a team after all.
I am saddened by the this announcement. It was one of those signs that First is branching out to reach all of the world's youth. I would hope that perhaps travel for your teams might be a possiblity and I certainly look forward to meeting up with Kiwi teams in the future.
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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

Well, if anybody from down there can make it to Los Angeles, they are welcome to come. We should have plenty of room for you.
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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

Travel costs are most likely a major cause.

Does this mean FIRST will add another regional somewhere else ?
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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

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Travel costs are most likely a major cause.

Does this mean FIRST will add another regional somewhere else ?
I doubt it, at least for this year. If New Zealand, with at least since Championsip (and probably before) to plan, couldn't do it, where is there an area that can do it this year?

Now, let's see how many NZ teams decide to come to the States or Brazil to compete this year, just for the experience.
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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

This is so disappointing...=(
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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

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Travel costs are most likely a major cause.

Does this mean FIRST will add another regional somewhere else ?
Not this year.

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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

Only two letters and one punctuation mark can describe my feelings about this...

NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

I haven't heard anything through my team about the regional being cancelled, though perhaps I'm just in denial! haha
BrentJ, could you post a link to the blog where you read about this?

In terms of NZers coming over to international competitions, I know a lot of my fellow team members will be gutted about this, so we'll probably do some fundraising to come over and see you guys compete. It's expensive to travel to anywhere from New Zealand though!
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BrentJ, could you post a link to the blog where you read about this?
The info comes from the First Director's ( Bills ) Blog, the entry for Thursday 2nd October 2008, second paragraph.

http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/

From what the guy from Onehunga said it sounds like we might still have a kick-off , build , competion etc but it won't give the winners an entry into the Atlanta champs.

We might be able to find out more at next Saturdays Vex comp at WestlakeGirls.
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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

Cool, thanks.
It does sound as though we'll still have a national competition, they just won't do another 'all expenses paid' trip to the US which, to be honest, is a very big ask.
Mmm, hopefully the westlake competition will shed some light on the situation.
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Hi

Just letting everyone know what is happening with down here in New Zealand with regards to FRC.

Instead of being part of the FRC from the January Kickoff we will have a New Zealand only FRC competion starting about April. So obviously this won't count to the 2009 FRC season. Maybe 2010 will be our first offical FRC year.

But the good news is we are having an official VEX regional in March.
The winning teams will be going to the World Vex Championship.

While not doing FRC from kickoff is a bit of a disappointment I think in the end it will work out for the best.

This will give our students the chance to work on the small scale Vex to develop their skills.

Even some of the veteran teams are stressing over just the new controller so imagine how it would be to have over thirty new rookie teams trying to get to grips with everything involved in the FRC. Especially when the nearest veteran team is a couple of thousand miles away.

So in the end I think this will better in the long run.

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Re: 2009 New Zealand Regional Cancelled

hi Brent,

Glad to hear that FIRST FRC is still alive and well in New Zealand.

I am curious as to why you chose to do VEX rather than FTC?

FTC would give your teams more experience in the LabVIEW environment and you could have sent a team to Atlanta for the championship.

thanks

Good luck!!!

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While there are teams that do amazing things with a hacksaw and a hand drill, and other teams that have mentors and sponsors quite actively involved in the production of the robot, most Canadian public high schools have some form of metal working or wood working shop with technically trained teachers and elective courses that teach students who are interested how to use machine and power tools.

The situation isn't entirely different in the USA, I believe, but perhaps varies a bit more. Our team, for instance has access to several machine lathes, two mills, TIG MIG Gas and Stick welders, sheet metal tools, and (not that we've used it for FRC yet) a forge and small foundry in the metal shop, and a full wood shop, complete with CNC router. We actually design many of our robot parts out of wood, particularly baltic birch plywood, with good success. We have also done fibreglass layup in the Engineering shop, and have built our own custom circuit boards in the electronics shop.

Other teams have more, many have much, much less. It doesn't so much seem to be what you have in your shop, but how you use it that makes the difference.

Jason

P.S. Oddly, we complain that our machine tools are so old that they are still in imperial units... doesn't hurt so much, though, when you're taking part in an American-based competition!
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