Go to Post It's good to learn from experience. It's better to learn from somebody else's experience. - Jay TenBrink [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 16:22
Bob Steele's Avatar
Bob Steele Bob Steele is offline
Professional Steamacrit Hunter
AKA: Bob Steele
FRC #1983 (Skunk Works Robotics)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 1,523
Bob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond repute
Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

I had a student ask me why a KEPS nut is called a KEPS nut today.
I have no idea. I know they are sometimes called K-nuts or washer nuts.
I looked on the web... can't find an acronym or a definition
I had thought it might be a company or something...

Anyone have any insight into this.

We are just curious creatures..

thanks
__________________
Raisbeck Aviation High School TEAM 1983 - Seattle, Washington
Las Vegas 07 WINNER w/ 1425/254...Seattle 08 WINNER w/ 2046/949.. Oregon 09 WINNER w/1318/2635..SEA 10 RCA ..Spokane 12 WINNER w/2122/4082 and RCA...Central Wa 13 WINNER w/1425/753..Seattle 13 WINNER w/948/492 & RCA ..Spokane 13 WINNER w/2471/4125.. Spokane 14 - DCA --Auburn 14 - WINNER w/1318/4960..District CMP 14 WINNER w/1318/2907, District CMA.. CMP 14 Newton Finalist w 971/341/3147 ... Auburn Mountainview 15 WINNER w/1318/3049 - Mt Vernon 15 WINNER w/1318/4654 - Philomath 15 WINNER w/955/847 -District CMP 15 WINNER w/955/2930 & District CMA -CMP Newton -Industrial Design Award

Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 16:26
Rick's Avatar
Rick Rick is online now
Ready to STRIKE!
AKA: Rick Blight
FRC #0078 (AIR STRIKE)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Tiverton, RI, USA
Posts: 634
Rick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond reputeRick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

A Keps nut, also called a K-nut or washer nut, is a nut with an attached, free-spinning washer. It is used to make assembly more convenient. The washer is commonly a star-type lock washer, though conical and flat washers are also used.

From Wikipedia.
__________________
Like Aquidneck Island Robotics on Facebook!
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 16:37
Bob Steele's Avatar
Bob Steele Bob Steele is offline
Professional Steamacrit Hunter
AKA: Bob Steele
FRC #1983 (Skunk Works Robotics)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 1,523
Bob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

Thanks but I knew that...
I want to find out WHY its called a "KEPS" nut

thanks
R
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 16:53
SDiPoala SDiPoala is offline
Registered User
FRC #1559
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Victor, NY
Posts: 6
SDiPoala is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Steele View Post
Thanks but I knew that...
I want to find out WHY its called a "KEPS" nut

thanks
R
I just looked it up on google and didn't find anything of interest. It could be the guys name who invented it or an abbreviation of his name. I don't know.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 16:56
gburlison gburlison is offline
Mentor
FRC #0662 (Rocky Mountain Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 245
gburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to allgburlison is a name known to all
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Steele View Post
Thanks but I knew that...
I want to find out WHY its called a "KEPS" nut

thanks
R
KEPS is a trademark of Illinois Tool Works Inc. Apparently they invented the KEPS-nut. You might ask the what it means.

http://www.itw.com

Their automotive groups seems to have a little info, But I did not find the answer to your question.

http://www.itwautomotive.com/
__________________
Gordon Burlison - Mentor
662/Rocky Mountain Robotics
"Every silver lining's got a Touch of grey - Robert Hunter"
"No sense in being pessimistic, it wouldn't work anyway"
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 20:08
Fred Sayre's Avatar
Fred Sayre Fred Sayre is offline
Registered User
AKA: Fred Sayre
FRC #0488 (xbot)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Seattle
Posts: 141
Fred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant futureFred Sayre has a brilliant future
Send a message via AIM to Fred Sayre
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

ShaKEProof.

Ah Ha!
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 21:39
Travis Hoffman's Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
Travis Hoffman Travis Hoffman is offline
O-H
FRC #0048 (Delphi E.L.I.T.E.)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Warren, Ohio USA
Posts: 4,047
Travis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond reputeTravis Hoffman has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Sayre View Post
ShaKEProof.

Ah Ha!
Fred gets a cookie. Since I know y'all will want further proof:

http://www.boltscience.com/pages/glossary.htm#k
__________________

Travis Hoffman, Enginerd, FRC Team 48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E.
Encouraging Learning in Technology and Engineering - www.delphielite.com
NEOFRA - Northeast Ohio FIRST Robotics Alliance - www.neofra.com
NEOFRA / Delphi E.L.I.T.E. FLL Regional Partner

Last edited by Travis Hoffman : 23-10-2008 at 21:44.
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 21:43
Lowfategg's Avatar
Lowfategg Lowfategg is offline
Building cars now....
AKA: Tyler Moser
FRC #2016 (Mighty Monkey Wrenches)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Bridgewater, NJ
Posts: 471
Lowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Lowfategg
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

It KEPS the nut from coming lose.

Anyway it does not matter since Lock Nuts are better.
__________________
Mechanical Engineering Student at WPI.

Mightly Monkey Wrenches FRC #2016 - 2010-12 (Mentor)

Past: FTC #74, FVC #3179, FVC #73, FRC #303, FRC #2753
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 21:45
Adam Y.'s Avatar
Adam Y. Adam Y. is offline
Adam Y.
no team (?????)
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Long Island
Posts: 1,979
Adam Y. is a splendid one to beholdAdam Y. is a splendid one to beholdAdam Y. is a splendid one to beholdAdam Y. is a splendid one to beholdAdam Y. is a splendid one to beholdAdam Y. is a splendid one to beholdAdam Y. is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via AIM to Adam Y.
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowfategg View Post

Anyway it does not matter since Lock Nuts are better.
Except that Keps Nuts are Lock Nuts. And if they are the nuts that I think you are thinking of you should not reuse them.
__________________
If either a public officer or any one else saw a person attempting to cross a bridge which had been ascertained to be unsafe, and there were no time to warn him of his danger, they might seize him and turn him back without any real infringement of his liberty; for liberty consists in doing what one desires, and he does not desire to fall into the river. -Mill
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 23-10-2008, 22:47
Lowfategg's Avatar
Lowfategg Lowfategg is offline
Building cars now....
AKA: Tyler Moser
FRC #2016 (Mighty Monkey Wrenches)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Bridgewater, NJ
Posts: 471
Lowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond reputeLowfategg has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Lowfategg
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Y. View Post
Except that Keps Nuts are Lock Nuts. And if they are the nuts that I think you are thinking of you should not reuse them.
Maybe I should have said nylon lock nuts are better or at least I think they are.

And true its not a good idea to reuse them, but boy they don't like coming lose.
__________________
Mechanical Engineering Student at WPI.

Mightly Monkey Wrenches FRC #2016 - 2010-12 (Mentor)

Past: FTC #74, FVC #3179, FVC #73, FRC #303, FRC #2753
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-10-2008, 06:39
ebarker's Avatar
ebarker ebarker is offline
Registered User
AKA: Ed Barker
FRC #1311 (Kell Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Kennesaw GA
Posts: 1,437
ebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond reputeebarker has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

and then there are the "PEM" nuts......
__________________
Ed Barker
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-10-2008, 12:39
Bob Steele's Avatar
Bob Steele Bob Steele is offline
Professional Steamacrit Hunter
AKA: Bob Steele
FRC #1983 (Skunk Works Robotics)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 1,523
Bob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond reputeBob Steele has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

I emailed the ITW company and got this very nice response back quickly.

Robert,
Prior to the invention of KEPS by the Shakeproof Division of ITW, nuts and washers were assembled by hand as separate components. Usually the washers were of the conical or tooth design. Invariably some washers would not get assembled causing a subsequent joint failure.

At the time, preassembly of the nut and washer into a single component was a major breakthrough in fastener technology. The assembled components not only provided the opportunity for improved automation, but assured that each fastened joint contained a washer. The trademark name KEPS was created by marketing as a short and easy to remember product name. Even today KEPS is a generic term for any pre-assembled nut and washer.

Pictures of various nut and washer assemblies may be viewed at:
www.itwautomotive.com

Hopefully this brief history of KEPS is an adequate response for those curious students you teach. Best regards

Jim Anderson
ITW Shakeproof Industrial Products
Operations Manager


It was quite nice of them to take the time to inform us.
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-10-2008, 13:25
lenny8's Avatar
lenny8 lenny8 is offline
Aww Yea
AKA: L-Deezy
FRC #1018 (Robodevils)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 235
lenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to beholdlenny8 is a splendid one to behold
Re: Definition of Keps...as in KEPS Nut

theirs not a day that i don't wonder why people name things what they name them...
__________________
Learn something, Know Something, Do something
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nut for Bimba Piston chris31 Pneumatics 6 29-07-2007 21:30
Suction Cup Nut IfIwasarichman Technical Discussion 5 31-01-2007 08:21
.... You might be a FIRST nut Horman Havoc Chit-Chat 16 11-01-2007 22:39
2 Hours Sleep and I cannot bear to see another nut or bolt.. archiver 2001 2 24-06-2002 00:54
Lead Screw Nut archiver 2000 1 23-06-2002 22:49


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:55.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi