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Sensor use on Papst Large Fan

Posted by Joe Balint at 1/19/2001 12:08 AM EST


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Anyone have any idea what kind of signal is coming off the sensor wire on the Papst Large Fan that came in the KOP?


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Re: Sensor use on Papst Large Fan

Posted by Justin Stiltner at 1/19/2001 12:26 AM EST


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Posted by Joe Balint on 1/19/2001 12:08 AM EST:



: Anyone have any idea what kind of signal is coming off the sensor wire on the Papst Large Fan that came in the KOP?

I dont know for shure but I would guess that it is some kind of rpm thing.

just tie it up in my opinion.

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we were just talking about this!

Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/19/2001 11:09 AM EST


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Posted by Justin Stiltner on 1/19/2001 12:26 AM EST:



yeah we had a mini-debate on this one...

someone said it was prolly to measure the temperature...somehow. and someone else suggested that it regulated the RPM whenever.

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Looking at similar fans - RPM

Posted by Nate Smith at 1/19/2001 12:01 PM EST


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: yeah we had a mini-debate on this one...

: someone said it was prolly to measure the temperature...somehow. and someone else suggested that it regulated the RPM whenever.

: -anton

While I don't know for sure about this fan, the only other 3-wire fans I've seen are newer computer fans, and the third wire is a pulse line that is decoded to determine the RPM of the fan...

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Re: Looking at similar fans - RPM

Posted by Adam Krajewski at 1/20/2001 5:58 PM EST


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Posted by Nate Smith on 1/19/2001 12:01 PM EST:



All but one of the three-wire fans I've seen/used (computer fans) used the third wire to monitor RPMs. The only exception simply reported whether or not the fan was spinning at all.

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Re: Sensor use on Papst Large Fan

Posted by Joe Balint at 1/20/2001 11:06 AM EST


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Posted by Joe Balint on 1/19/2001 12:08 AM EST:



Actually, I'm fairly ceratin it is an RPM signal. I was wondering if anyone had played with it to see what format the signal uses or if someone had a more detailed spec sheet on it. As lead on this team I don't have alot of time to do fun stuff, but I think I'm going to help one of the students look into this. We'll let you know what we find out.


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Re: Sensor use on Papst Large Fan

Posted by Michael Betts at 1/21/2001 10:47 AM EST


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Posted by Joe Balint on 1/20/2001 11:06 AM EST:



Joe, et al,

The RPM signal will probably not be of much use as the RPM of the fan is pretty high and the update time of our CPU is pretty low.

If you need an RPM sensor, a better tack is to use the optical sensor with a small "flag" attached to the shaft in question.

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