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Unread 27-10-2008, 17:09
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[OCCRA]: on the diversity tournament

It’s been brought up many times, but its really getting on my nerves: my team (and I believe OLSM as well) feel that the all girls portion of the tournament is unfair to us simply because we have no girls. The previous answer we got was "get girls", which is simply close to impossible. Yes, we could ask mercy or some other school, BUT due to logistics, the need to teach more people, and due to the fact we are an all guys school, we would probably lose support from the school. All of this for 3 matches? It’s downright unfair. I’m not saying that its a bad thing to try to get girls involved, but doing it at the blatant penalty to teams is wrong.
This being said, I see a few solutions:
1. Simply get rid of the all girls/guys portion.
2. Find a way for all guys teams to participate in the all girls. My idea: once the match list goes out, we ask a team we are partnered with or are in none of our matches to supply drivers/human player/vex driver. Guys would be allowed to work on the things in the pits.

now, the reasoning (this brings up a second issue) is that we still compete in the matches, scoring points we other wise wouldn’t be able to do (basic statistics. 2 people flip a coin. one flips his 10 times, but his first 3 tails don’t count. the second person flips his coin 7 times, counting all of his tails. who has more heads?). I do realize that matches are dropped, however those matches are still crucial to keeping the playing field level. This should also include matches that are canceled due to time requirements. All teams should (within reason) have identical amounts of matches at the end of the season, baring them forfeiting a match due to them not being ready. If the team is there and ready, they should be able to compete. If you need to sub in a robot at the end of the season to equal out the matches, the sub robot's total should not reflect that match's points.
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Re: [OCCRA]: on the diversity tournament

OLSM Seconds Catholic Central's Petition
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Re: [OCCRA]: on the diversity tournament

Sorry but your coach had input at the end of the season meeting. There the format was voted on by all in attendance. Majority rules.

Remember we use the top 12 matches (scores) and if you compete at all the tournaments then there are several extra to throw away.

At this point I would suggest that you make sure your coach is in attendance at the end of the year meeting and that, if he agrees with you, he has a presentation on an alternative to accomplish the same goals.

Very difficult to make everyone happy.
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Re: [OCCRA]: on the diversity tournament

Roeper used to be in the same situation. It sucks.
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Re: [OCCRA]: on the diversity tournament

Actually this subject goes farther than that, we didn't have very many girls that were major members so our girls were not all too happy to be forced to do everything. One in piticular found it very sexist, as they felt insulted that people thought that they weren't good enough to be a major player on their own so OCCRA will force everyone to only use the girls. It really doesn't help with diversity, it simply demonstraits how some people thinks girls can't do it on there own and highlights a sometimes lack of diversity for everyone to see. I think it would be much better if you droped the diversity rounds all together guys and girls keeping adults though those are different. I think many girls besides her see it as a jab that they are incapable of being involved on there own. If you really want to help girls get involved get them excited about robotics make them actually want to do this on there own.
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