Night & Day

I have to say, I'm not too thrilled about having to pack these suckers into our robot... In the past, electronics have already been a squeeze. We shall see, though.

On the plus side, it seems like it will be slightly harder for us to drop shavings and chips onto the H bridge, and fry them! This is good, because high school students seem to have an impressive ability to fry any electronic system you put in front of them...

[Matt382]

Jaguars and Victos weigh approximately the same. I know from holding them and comparing; there is no noticable difference unless you put it on a very accurate scale.

[Deep Dark]

I simply cannot get over the size difference. I'm really not a complainer, but having controls aspects adding more weight, and taking up more space, on the robot is not exactly something I am looking forward to. I guess we'll just need to not put as much mechanical stuff on inorder to make weight and size.

[synth3tk]

It depends on the limits this year. I'm sure they'll take the new system into consideration when making the rules this season.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by synth3tk

It depends on the limits this year. I'm sure they'll take the new system into consideration when making the rules this season.

I have a strong feeling the limits will remain under the size of a standard door. A standard door is 36" wide and you have to leave room for the door itself and the doorstop (the thin slat that sticks out from the jamb on the side opposite the hinges). With bumpers added on each side of the 28" that was the max width last year you are already pushing up very close to that.

I suppose they could add to the length though.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by Deep Dark

I simply cannot get over the size difference. I'm really not a complainer, but having controls aspects adding more weight, and taking up more space, on the robot is not exactly something I am looking forward to. I guess we'll just need to not put as much mechanical stuff on inorder to make weight and size.

As stated earlier the new Jaguars dont weight that much more than the Victors. Size wise they may be larger but perhaps we will stop seeing the electronics being shoved in wherever they will go. We will just need to be more careful with our designing. With any luck it will FORCE teams to clean up their wiring and electrical boards.

[synth3tk]

Oh, my bad. I misread the post. I thought he meant weight limits.

Well, as stated above, plan on cleaning up your electronics nicely this year, and you should be fine.

[Vikesrock]

Originally Posted by synth3tk

Oh, my bad. I misread the post. I thought he meant weight limits.

Well, as stated above, plan on cleaning up your electronics nicely this year, and you should be fine.

It appears I'm the one that should be apologizing. He mentioned both weight and size, but for some reason I assumed you were talking about size.

[synth3tk]

Wow, I guess he did. It's time for me to go to bed.....

[Cory]

Originally Posted by synth3tk

Well, as stated above, plan on cleaning up your electronics nicely this year, and you should be fine.

I'd like to think that 254 and 968 have nicely organized electronics boards and I can say without a doubt that we could not possibly fit jaguars into any of our past 3 robots without redesigning the actual robot itself.

The size of the jaguar is a very real concern for us, regardless of how much better it's performance may or may not be.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by Cory

I'd like to think that 254 and 968 have nicely organized electronics boards and I can say without a doubt that we could not possibly fit jaguars into any of our past 3 robots without redesigning the actual robot itself.

The size of the jaguar is a very real concern for us, regardless of how much better it's performance may or may not be.

sounds like the poofs and rawc will have a challenge this year, and I am sure they will out do everything previously accomplished.
mike d

[NickE]

Originally Posted by Triple B

sounds like the poofs and rawc will have a challenge this year

That would be on the assumption that we choose to use the jaguars this year.

[JesseK]

I imagine we'll see more 3-D layouts for electronics this year. The first layout we'll probably try is an upside-down "T", with the Jaguars on the vertical part.

[samir13k]

I got our kit today, and i saw the pro and the con of the jaguar

Pro: good performance, SURPRISINGLY LIGHT WEIGHT!!!

Con: looks even bigger in person (at least i think)

[AdamHeard]

Can someone actually weigh the two and post?

A .1lb difference may not be noticeable by holding them, but could easily be an entire pound on the robot.