Go to Post Above all, have fun and, if you need help, ask for it... Your inspectors will be glad to help or try to arrange for another team to help you. This should not be a traumatic experience! - Mike Betts [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Control System > FRC Control System
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #22   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 24-11-2008, 22:03
Kevin Sevcik's Avatar
Kevin Sevcik Kevin Sevcik is offline
(Insert witty comment here)
FRC #0057 (The Leopards)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Rookie Year: 1998
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,724
Kevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond reputeKevin Sevcik has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Kevin Sevcik Send a message via Yahoo to Kevin Sevcik
Re: New Info on 2009 control system, maybe

I'd just like to point out that as far as I can tell from what's been said here and on the beta forums, there's no information one way or another on whether this communications lag actually affects the function of the disable switch. That question's been asked on the beta forum, but hasn't been answered yet.

Second, I have to disagree that the joysticks holding the last sample is a safety deficiency. In most situations, this implementation is equivalent to the IFI default value system. If the USB device is controlling something like a PID positioned joint, the holding value implementation is arguably safer than suddenly jumping to any default value. As pointed out, the default value implementation is safer for most drive systems. So I think the new control system's functionality is just as safe or unsafe as IFI's. It's just different. If we want to argue them into changing it, I think it'd make a lot more sense to ask for the functionality that we actually need. As opposed to the functionality that we've grown used to dealing with. What we need is for the API to throw an error and/or return an invalid value when we try to address a joystick or axis that doesn't exist. Returning NaN would be perfect for this, as any operation on NaN returns NaN or false. I'm half certain that the PWM functions will already shutdown an output if they're commanded to output NaN. There's probably a few situations where this wouldn't completely safe things or would adversely affect things long after the joystick is replaced... But overall I think this should be preferred over switch from one less than satisfactory solution to another.
__________________
The difficult we do today; the impossible we do tomorrow. Miracles by appointment only.

Lone Star Regional Troubleshooter
Reply With Quote
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2009 Control System wedellm FRC Control System 11 23-11-2008 22:38
2009 Control System Layout Mark McLeod FRC Control System 36 23-11-2008 11:39
NEW 2009 Control System Released qnetjoe FRC Control System 296 15-08-2008 15:02
pic: 2009 Control System, Mounted Billfred FRC Control System 23 01-05-2008 19:02
2009 Control System Possibility? Racer26 Rumor Mill 121 25-04-2008 09:05


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:21.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi