Night & Day

[synth3tk]

Yeah, I'd like to see some actual weights too.

[Andrew Schreiber]

If no one gets to this I can do it Wednesday.

[Lowfategg]

Victor: 101.1 grams (.223 lbs)
Jaguar: 166.5 grams (.367 lbs)

Ecck!

(on the flip side the jaguar's do come with nice little stickers!)

By the way, if anyone else wants to know the weight of anything I be glad to measure it.

Edit: Updated with correct weights.

[samir13k]

Originally Posted by Lowfategg

Jaguar is 162.5 grams (0.358 lbs)

Victor is 97 grams (0.21 lbs)

Ecck!

(on the flip side the jaguar's do come with nice little stickers!)

By the way, if anyone else wants to know the weight of anything I be glad to measure it.

Like the cRio with modules, 1677.8 grams (3.699 pounds)

Yeah, Me also. I already have all the weights of the bot parts...i wont have them with me until monday though. If you need em' just pm me

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Lowfategg

Jaguar is 162.5 grams (0.358 lbs)

Victor is 97 grams (0.21 lbs)

Ecck!

(on the flip side the jaguar's do come with nice little stickers!)

By the way, if anyone else wants to know the weight of anything I be glad to measure it.

Like the cRio with modules, 1677.8 grams (3.699 pounds)

IFI lists the Victors as .25 Lbs, even then, it's a good deal heavier.

[Lowfategg]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

IFI lists the Victors as .25 Lbs, even then, it's a good deal heavier.

Well that was with my triple beam balance, from what I can tell there ..223 lbs (mass).

[blaxbb]

what about the weight of the old power distribution block, maxi fuse panel, and other fuse panel combined vs the weight of the new PD board

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by samir13k

I got our kit today, and i saw the pro and the con of the jaguar

Pro: good performance, SURPRISINGLY LIGHT WEIGHT!!!

Con: looks even bigger in person (at least i think)

The surprising lightness is because they're fluffy. They aren't as heavy as you'd expect from the size, but they're still more than half again as heavy as a Victor.

I too was struck by how much bigger they are in person than I was prepared for from the pictures. They're huge.

[Lowfategg]

Well, it seems that my scale was off, so I calibrated it (the wonders of analog technology). These weights are hopefully more accurate.

Victor: 101.1 grams (.223 lbs)
Jaguar: 166.5 grams (.367 lbs)

Sorry about that!

[Burmeister #279]

150% larger,
150% heavier,
lets just hope it performs more than 150% better =)

[samir13k]

Originally Posted by Burmeister #279

150% larger,
150% heavier,
lets just hope it performs more than 150% better =)

not to scare anyone, but id say it is way more than 150% larger...actually i'd say about 225% larger at least

at least i have had no problems with them. I would actually say that installation is a little easier since it is bigger, and they have also performed great so far!

(u can probably spot the pro and con of that second sentence i wrote)

[Tom Line]

I think burmeister forgot that area is the square of length. So the length is 150% larger... but the area, well....

[JesseK]

Yesterday we figured out a nifty space-saving way to mount these, and I'll post a pic tomorrow night once I put the memory card back into my camera so it will save the picture

Take a 1/16" wall angle aluminum piece that has 2.5" legs (hard to find I know, we had to cut metal meant for another purpose to get it), drill holes that are far enough up and apart so that a Jaguar can be vertically mounted to it. Then, mount the Jaguars back-to-back on the mount -- but -- rotate one of the Jaguars 180 degrees on the axis that's normal to the mount plate. This will put all of the motor outputs on one side and all of the power inputs on the other. Then, using either a 3" #8 bolt & nut, OR a #10 2" machine screw, you can screw the Jaguars to each other. For a production mount piece, you can mill out unnecessary metal from the middle and still maintain the rigidity.

WARNING: A #10 machine bolt will thread the inside of the holes. We haven't done shock testing yet with this setup, so YMMV for longevity of the mount.

Other than that, your power distribution block will need plenty of room on each side! This isn't room for wiring, no, it's room so that you can horizontally put a tiny screw driver in the slot in order to take a wire in or out. You can't do this from the top of the PDB, nor really effectively at an angle. The PDB was the single deciding factor in the majority of our preliminary electronics layout. Could someone point us to an effective tool that has a flat 90 degree tip, to alleviate that problem?

[IndySam]

Every time this thread pops up I get Cole Porter in my head.

[robostangs548]

When I saw pictures like this on CD I thought that they were going to be like GINOURMOUS, but they really are not that big, and they feel like there construction is of much better quality, like it is a "top of the line" type product. I actually like them, and don't really mind the size, because they pretty much are equal in weight.