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Re: GP and FIRST: How to make it matter in a team?

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Is there any more I can say about why winning doesn't matter as much, because we as students are winners by even being in FIRST?
If you believe what you are saying, then you are role modeling. You can role model what you believe and what you think. Many people don't. They talk the talk but they don't walk the walk. Those that do, impact. That's true in life and definitely true in teams that grasp and understand the importance of using Gracious Professionalism as an action that impacts and conducts change.

How a team wins as well as how a team loses is important when looking at it through the lens of conduct and attitude. How a team mentors others and is available to help, influences their community during build season and the competition while competing. How a team conducts itself following the competition and the season, reflects on the team and the program. The actions can be improvements or can be detrimental - inspiring or devastating.

When you were chosen to discuss FIRST and Gracious Professionalism, then it became an opportunity for you as an individual and a team member to conduct yourself as a role model, making an impact. It has to start somewhere, why not with you...

Sidenote: I think winning is important just as I think losing is important. They are important in how they set the bar and how they are valued and respected. Teams can be sore winners just as they can be sore losers. Teams can be gracious losers just as they can be gracious winners. The build season is an opportunity to develop as a team and to put that development to use during competition season. If it is used wisely and well, then the competition season has been a good one, win lose or draw.
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Re: GP and FIRST: How to make it matter in a team?

Perhaps showing the students examples of non-GP behavior would help. I would look around the internet for videos of sports players fighting with each other because a goal was scored. Make sure to point out that these players lost millions of dollars in endorsement deals as a direct result of jerks and exhibiting the winning is everything philosophy.

Also, make sure that your students understand that you could have the most incredible robot but if you try to win at all costs I will NOT pick you to be on an alliance. And I know judges won't give you awards. If they can't accept that FIRST is not about winning awards then they shouldn't be here. Until they can mature and realize that winning isn't everything (A fact many people in FIRST would do well to learn as well) they do not belong here, FIRST is not like America. It doesn't want the poor, and the broken, or the dregs of society. It wants passionate individuals who are committed to the goals of FIRST. I realize that statement seems elitist but, if there is a team who will willingly damage the robot that my kids worked so hard on I do not want them on the field, they do not deserve to be there. Winning should NEVER take precedence over being a decent human being.

That being said, kudos on wanting to help them mature.
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Re: GP and FIRST: How to make it matter in a team?

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