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Re: FiM is NOT FIRST

John,

I am not eager to stop the discussion, but will not tolerate accuasations that FiM is trying to make FIRST like OCCRA and that FiM is making FIRST forget about the base fundamental values that we all hold so dear.

Look at the first post in this thread and if you think the accusations in it are valid, then we really have nothing more to discuss as I believe they are proposterous.

What actual solutions were proposed in the first post? What counter proposals were mentioned? It seemed to be a libelous rant that has no place in this forum.

I am not part of FiM as I disagree with some of the assumptions made, but I am willing to let it play out this season and take copious notes on what is good and what is bad and use factual (not emotional) arguments for it, against it, or propose changes. I am just asking the rest of you to do the same. I am sure Beth will do the same, but I disagree with the tactics she is using right now.

Are you saying that this discussion in this thread is actually helping anyone at all? I agree that this has been a cordial discussion, but it has not been a productive discussion.

Arguments like, "the competition will stink" or, "the quality of the event will go down" will only have the right to say "I told you so" at the end of the season; but what will they have actually done to try to help some of the barriers of entry (or to sustain) for a FIRST team?
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