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Re: FiM is NOT FIRST

I don't see how FiM changes the values of FIRST at all. Values aren't really dictated, they are created by everyone involved. If students are still being inspired and are inspiring others then the fundamental values of FIRST are still there, and so long as the older members of the teams are willing to pass those values down then GP will live forever. FIRST could become a battle competition and STILL retain GP if the the older members are willing to teach it.

The point system might make it a little bit tougher to encourage students to be GP, but that remains to be seen. If you don't want the values of FIRST to change then don't let them. Get your team together, go out there, compete your hearts out, and inspire people. Do that and GP will not die. Everyone makes the competitions what they are, so make them the best they can be.
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Re: FiM is NOT FIRST

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I don't see how FiM changes the values of FIRST at all. Values aren't really dictated, they are created by everyone involved. If students are still being inspired and are inspiring others then the fundamental values of FIRST are still there, and so long as the older members of the teams are willing to pass those values down then GP will live forever. FIRST could become a battle competition and STILL retain GP if the the older members are willing to teach it.
YES! Thank you for saying what I meant in a clear way.
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The point system might make it a little bit tougher to encourage students to be GP, but that remains to be seen. If you don't want the values of FIRST to change then don't let them. Get your team together, go out there, compete your hearts out, and inspire people. Do that and GP will not die. Everyone makes the competitions what they are, so make them the best they can be.
Why do anything to make it tougher to encourage students to be GP. The Chairman's Award, Engineering Inspiration Rookie Inspiration and Rookie All-Star shouldn't be 0 pts, 5 pts or 1,000. They should be an automatic ticket to the State Championship.

Under the current system, I could have a Robot that does not really function that well at all, but if my team wins the Chairman's Award or other Culture Changing Award, were going to the Championship. I don't see why FiM decided they should change that at all.

If a team wins the CA, EI, RA or RI they should be invited to the State Championship. Done Deal. I don't care what their robot does.
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