Game Hint #1

[Boydean]

As seen in the picture, on the first line, between the tail fin and the bottom fin. Is "@ body", is it just me or would they have not let that go if it was in a book.

[Bill Taylor]

A few ideas I was wanting to air out about the clue. The water game, although fun to think about, would be impractical to set up. One bad leak in a tank and FIRST is rebuilding somebody's arena floor. The fish has the common name "Moonfish". Plus, we're getting cameras in the kit of parts and handy-dandy instructions on how to specifically hook them up. My guess, and I apologize and do not take credit if someone beat me to this conclusion. is that it will be a Lunar Landing game and the driver will be "black-bagged" and have to operate the robot through a monitor just like an actual rover. This could be for gameplay or perhaps take the place of autonomous. Plus, I remember seeing a clue a month ago that was up with the round diamond plate and the number 5 painted on it(could have been bogus). If that was an actually clue then those could have been gamepieces. If not, the Moonfish is listed as a "gamefish" by marine organizations. It may, in fact be the gamepiece.

[Roboticmayhem]

Its colors and shape could have something to do with it. The main colors, as mentioned int the first article post, are red and blue, like alliance colors. The pattern of colors is Blue at the center with Red at the top and bottom. Could this suggest a field setup or shape? Will Blue be defending the center of a field or will the challenge be to claim the center? Finally, the body is filled with white spots, could this suggest many small "game pieces" in the field?

-Nick

[keen101]

It could be less obvious. ....maybe the name of the fish....

GOOGLE : MOONFISH

http://www.australianseafoodexports..../moonfish1.jpg

hmm... interesting... If the name does have anything to do with the game... then it could have a landscape similar to the moon landscape. I think that would cool. It would make designing transmissions and wheel systems difficult, but also very fun. Think of having to climb over bumpy terrain.....

or maybe even advanced sensors similar to what might be used on the moon.....

last year they added the IR recievers to simulate what it was like to talk to the mars rovers. I think it's very possible they want to simulate something else "NASA" related.

[SpartanG37]

Hey everyone, all the ideas make a lot of sense really but the one thing i just noticed that doesnt make any sense and sorry if this was already pointed out but there is this guy who posted a reply for Game Hint #3 for last years game and at the bottom of his reply, it has this same picture of the moonfish and its dated 1-02-08! Now idk if that is just a coinsidence but it really confused me and got me thinking. If u cant find it go to the bottom of this page under "Similiar Threads" click "Game Hint #3" and its like the 3rd reply down. Let me know what you guys think.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by SpartanG37

Hey everyone, all the ideas make a lot of sense really but the one thing i just noticed that doesnt make any sense and sorry if this was already pointed out but there is this guy who posted a reply for Game Hint #3 for last years game and at the bottom of his reply, it has this same picture of the moonfish and its dated 1-02-08! Now idk if that is just a coinsidence but it really confused me and got me thinking. If u cant find it go to the bottom of this page under "Similiar Threads" click "Game Hint #3" and its like the 3rd reply down. Let me know what you guys think.

Not a coincidence. I know who you are talking about, and he didn't have that then.

When you update your profile or signature, the information goes to every post you have. So it's always current, even if the post isn't.

For example, when I make this post, my profile will indicate that I am on team FRC #1135(Schmoebotics)(0330 Alumni), with a team role of Alumni. Give me about 5 minutes, and that will change.

[SpartanG37]

Ohhh...ok thats a relief....thanks a lot. I am new to this forum stuff so I just needed a head up thats all.

[rfrank]

Guys, I've figured it out. The reason there is a fish is because it's a water game.

[alectronic]

Originally Posted by Roboticmayhem

Its colors and shape could have something to do with it. The main colors, as mentioned int the first article post, are red and blue, like alliance colors. The pattern of colors is Blue at the center with Red at the top and bottom. Could this suggest a field setup or shape? Will Blue be defending the center of a field or will the challenge be to claim the center? Finally, the body is filled with white spots, could this suggest many small "game pieces" in the field?

-Nick

On that same note, take a look at the inverted image... When you flip it it turns blue. Perhaps there is something, as mentioned, to having to control a portion of the field. Maybe the field randomly decides whether red or blue is offense / defense. Perhaps a offense/defense period like the one in 2006?? I think that was the year, I dont remember.
There was another person who mentioned this, and I agree with it, that even if the physical size of the field does not change (I doubt it would) I would find it near impossible that there would be absolutely no changes to the surfaces. Especially with challenging teams by providing the camera and having access to this new system, some change to the field surface besides the challenge structure is very likely. As for game pieces, the last year was balls, the year before that rings. 2006 was balls again and 2005 was triangles. Because I do not believe that a fish would be a game piece, maybe they will go back to cubes? And 1 other note, pools are out of the question, but what about some sort of tank where maybe robots can reach over the edges of the field and retrieve something from a tank of some sort as a bonus? Seems far-fetched, but you never know.

[synth3tk]

Originally Posted by rfrank

Guys, I've figured it out. The reason there is a fish is because it's a water game.

For some odd reason, that just made my day!

[Tottanka]

I think that the Game Hint only relates to the name of the game, and not any particular part of it. It has been this way in previous years more then a couple of times.

Now, what does interest me, is the name of that page on UFfirst.org.
Does the name "Game hint #1" mean we will be getting at least one more hint?
in 2006 and 2007 there was only one hint, but don't remember if it's page on usfirst.org was called "game hint" or "game hint #1"...

[GGCO]

Techalex,

I really like the idea of having one team control a portion of the field. I think that throughout the match you will have to play both defense and offense (what ever that means).

I also think that our robots will be forced to climb things and the floor will be wet or something because fish are slippery! Also, I was reading that the moonfish migrate in a vertical patter (or something like that). I think that this is more evidence that our robots are going to have to climb something or pull themselves up.

But where does the camera fit into all of this? Any ideas??

[IndySam]

OK this thread has become useless because people are to lazy to read the thread before posting. Oh well. Se you in the next clue thread.

[mrbob1000]

building off the thought earlier posted, you only ever see one half of the moon. could it be that the game will be like the moon? could it be that the driver will only be able to see one half of the field and then have to use the camera.

[synth3tk]

Originally Posted by Tottanka

Does the name "Game hint #1" mean we will be getting at least one more hint?
in 2006 and 2007 there was only one hint, but don't remember if it's page on usfirst.org was called "game hint" or "game hint #1"...

Most likely we'll be receiving more hints. Last season, we had a total of three hints. And it related to the game, not the title of it.

Originally Posted by IndySam

OK this thread has become useless because people are to lazy to read the thread before posting. Oh well. Se you in the next clue thread.

Same here. I'm tired of checking the latest posts, only to read the same stuff over again for the third time. There is a "Search Thread" button on the first post of every page, people. Please use it. I know you're excited, but it brings nothing to the conversation if you're reiterating something that has been found out earlier in the thread.

Thanks.