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Sorry Lenny, I was just trying to pass the time and maybe make a few people laugh. As of right now, I think that's what this post is: a place for humor. What good is a bunch of speculation about a picture of a fish?
im probly the only person left that has read this entire tread and still reads it.
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im probly the only person left that has read this entire tread and still reads it.
*hand up in the air* - I read the thread, too. (no surprise there, I love puzzles, humor, and hints)

And... this thread is rated as a 5 star thread - that can't be all bad.
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I'm reading the thread, also, and was here for the original post. I just think that everything possible has been posted at least four times, so I'm just skimming through it without posting.
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Re: Game Hint #1

i read the thread and im still reading it

I'll admit it... its true....Im addicted to game hints
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Finally a clue to the reason for the fish. Here is the connection. In the movie "finding Nemo" there are fish that group together to form various shapes. one of these shapes is similar to the 2009 game piece.

Logically, the GDC likes to rattle the cages of those who think "water game....." So they look for the name of the fish that created the shapes. Moon fish! However, they supply a picture as a hint and not the name of the fish.

Now, if someone here has a DVD of finding nemo, could you please look at and list all the shapes that this fish school formed in the movie. one of the items in the list will be the game piece for the 2009 game.

Please remember, that when the shape is found, that it is mine, MINE, mine, mine, MINE.
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Re: Game Hint #1

please excuse my randomness....(you have been forewarned)

but maybe they are referring to this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs
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Now, if someone here has a DVD of finding nemo, could you please look at and list all the shapes that this fish school formed in the movie. one of the items in the list will be the game piece for the 2009 game.
The list of shapes the moonfish make are:
Swordfish
Lobster
Octopus
Ship
Clownfish
Sydney Opera House
East Austraian Current(Waves)
Arrow
Trench

Im not sure how any of those relate to a FRC game piece, but you never know with the GDC.
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Re: Game Hint #1

I think that is irelevant... I'm sticking to my belief in that the name moonfish is such a generic fish name ( cause it ends in fish ) that they were trying to emphisize the moon part... And that the field will have not the same old boring flat surface ( like moon) but will have higher scoring game pieces in harder to manuever places
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Re: Game Hint #1

I've been reading this and thinking about the clue for a while now (haven't we all!!!) and have come to the conclusion that the hints are always over thought. I think that we will simply be "fishing" for something. Maybe we will be reaching into a tank (full of water?!?!? ) or just grabbing things, who knows. That's just my two cents.
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I think that is irelevant... I'm sticking to my belief in that the name moonfish is such a generic fish name ( cause it ends in fish ) that they were trying to emphasize the moon part...
Many of us have posted ideas and thoughts here based on the name "Moonfish". I see nothing wrong with that, but I need to point out, according to Wikipedia:
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Opah (also known colloquially as moonfish, sunfish, kingfish, redfin ocean pan, and Jerusalem haddock)
So, maybe "Moon" is not the only thing we should consider.

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And that the field will have not the same old boring flat surface ( like moon)
I have made this point elsewhere, but I think it has bearing on this conversation. If you will recall the 2008 game (I know, it is still 2008), the GDC did a fantastic job developing a game where every level of team could contribute. Teams that could barely do more than assemble the KOP chassis could at least drive and earn points. Teams that were more skilled/experienced could score by driving, hurdling, placing the Track Ball or knocking it down. Some teams were even able to rock the house with autonomous routines that were amazing!

So, how does that apply here?
I see no reason that the GDC would move away from that formula for game design and would make it more difficult for the least capable teams to at least contribute. I just don't see having a moon like playing surface supporting that goal. Although, without knowing the game nor the content of the KOP, what I just said is really only a SWAG.

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...but will have higher scoring game pieces in harder to maneuver places
I could not agree more!!!
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Re: Game Hint #1

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Many of us have posted ideas and thoughts here based on the name "Moonfish". I see nothing wrong with that, but I need to point out, according to Wikipedia:

So, maybe "Moon" is not the only thing we should consider.


I have made this point elsewhere, but I think it has bearing on this conversation. If you will recall the 2008 game (I know, it is still 2008), the GDC did a fantastic job developing a game where every level of team could contribute. Teams that could barely do more than assemble the KOP chassis could at least drive and earn points. Teams that were more skilled/experienced could score by driving, hurdling, placing the Track Ball or knocking it down. Some teams were even able to rock the house with autonomous routines that were amazing!

So, how does that apply here?
I see no reason that the GDC would move away from that formula for game design and would make it more difficult for the least capable teams to at least contribute. I just don't see having a moon like playing surface supporting that goal. Although, without knowing the game nor the content of the KOP, what I just said is really only a SWAG.
I agree with you on the count of FIRST keeping the game competitive for all levels of teams, but I still think it's possible for them to allow for some sort of uneven surface. One way would be to have the game pieces be smaller blocks, traffic cones, that type of thing, and distribute them randomly over the playing field at the start of each match. Or, using the same idea, maybe one alliances pieces will be on the other side of the field, requiring robots to cross their opponets pieces at the start of the match.

Another way of having an uneven surface would be a field with bunch of ramps. Ramps allow for changes in elevation/rougher driving, add a level of strategy to the match, and are easy enough for first year teams to navigate. My final idea would be to have, say a bunch of traffic cones on the field, or similar object that wouldn't damage a robot that chose to ignore them, but would slow it down.

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So, how does that apply here?
I see no reason that the GDC would move away from that formula for game design and would make it more difficult for the least capable teams to at least contribute. I just don't see having a moon like playing surface supporting that goal. Although, without knowing the game nor the content of the KOP, what I just said is really only a SWAG.
i think that this does apply here, if you think deeper into what i said about the game pieces being in harder to reach places worth more points..... the newer teams could still get the less scoring points that maybe don't have any difficult terrain to speak of.... this would imply that, adding on to the game hint of the fish, we are going and getting somthing and bringing it back (like fishing). teams that are skilled in the art of chassis building (and driving) could get the harder to reach areas.
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On another note -- THE WATER GAME AIN'T HAPNIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quoting from someone else that i'm to lazy to look up - it would be way to hard for first to have a water based game for setting up and taking down (also imagine the leaks.....)--- not that it isnt a cool idea but id rather have a non-water based game and not have to worry about waterproofing a >2000$ C-Rio and worrying about frying the entire board....
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i think that this does apply here, if you think deeper into what i said about the game pieces being in harder to reach places worth more points..... the newer teams could still get the less scoring points that maybe don't have any difficult terrain to speak of.... this would imply that, adding on to the game hint of the fish, we are going and getting somthing and bringing it back (like fishing). teams that are skilled in the art of chassis building (and driving) could get the harder to reach areas.
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Sounds like we are playing from the same sheet, seeing eye to eye, fishing in the same pond... ,.... on this one.
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Re: Game Hint #1

Fish... Fish... All i can think of is Dr. Seuss:

One Fish
Two Fish
Red Fish Blue Fish
Anyone know thw whole story? There might be a clue in there..
perhaps I'm just fishing for an answer. I noticed we all seem to be floundering around with the idea... Holy Mackeral this is a hard clue to guess!
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Fish... Fish... All i can think of is Dr. Seuss:

One Fish
Two Fish
Red Fish Blue Fish
Anyone know thw whole story? There might be a clue in there..
perhaps I'm just fishing for an answer. I noticed we all seem to be floundering around with the idea... Holy Mackeral this is a hard clue to guess!
Well when I saw this comment I thought well maybe this guy has something but then no one really responded or reacted to his comment so i figured i would make and account and post. if you think of it this makes a lot of sense it could be wrong but thinking of this id say the hint means theres gonna be two fish as game pieces of some sort and that ones for the red team and ones for the blue team just like there always is a red and blue. Thats just my thoughts on what part of the game might be and i think this could be one of the most important posts here maybe someone has a idea that can expand upon that.

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