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Re: Game Hint #2

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Well I think there are some problems with that, 1st camera only in teleop would not use it to it's full capacity, and I highly believe it will be used in autonomous, with the new control system bots can communicate to each other, and I think that should be a game element, even if it's new, game piece not sure, but they will be different in some form.
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Re: Game Hint #2

I attempted to read most of the responses, but since I have school tomorrow morning, I couldn't read them all. If I give an idea that has already been addressed or discussed, could somebody please tell me the answer or show me where I can find it? Sorry for all the people that put in the time and effort into presenting the idea and figuring out if it's a good one.

I think that since some of the cities create a triangle it might be possible that the field might change to be a triangle shape and maybe we have 3 alliance teams. Still 3 teams on each alliance, but maybe this way they can get more teams on the field and have possibly better rankings.
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Re: Game Hint #2

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I attempted to read most of the responses, but since I have school tomorrow morning, I couldn't read them all. If I give an idea that has already been addressed or discussed, could somebody please tell me the answer or show me where I can find it? Sorry for all the people that put in the time and effort into presenting the idea and figuring out if it's a good one.

I think that since some of the cities create a triangle it might be possible that the field might change to be a triangle shape and maybe we have 3 alliance teams. Still 3 teams on each alliance, but maybe this way they can get more teams on the field and have possibly better rankings.
the triangle shape is probably going to end up being ramps, which I think, will end up being in the competition.
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Re: Game Hint #2

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You may know this already but just in case ...
There is a forum here in ChiefDelphi that is called FRC Game Design.
Each year after the official season comes to a close, Dave usually starts a new thread for the 'next' season like this one. (I say it that way because I think the GDC is way out there but, of course, I'm clueless.) If you guys think suggestions made in the hint threads are good, make a mental note to suggest them in the thread that is created after the 2009 season. That way, the ideas are sure to be viewed and not lost here in this thread - which will, by that time, be old news - very old news. Hard to believe, I know.
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Re: Game Hint #2

Anyone know if autonomous will be hybrid again, anything announced about it? Of not announced, do the hints point to it being hybrid again?

If it is hybrid, might give some ideas to the game, perhaps.
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Anyone know if autonomous will be hybrid again, anything announced about it? Of not announced, do the hints point to it being hybrid again?

If it is hybrid, might give some ideas to the game, perhaps.
Not announced yet. 22 days or so, I think, before we know.
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Re: Game Hint #2

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Anyone know if autonomous will be hybrid again, anything announced about it? Of not announced, do the hints point to it being hybrid again?

If it is hybrid, might give some ideas to the game, perhaps.
We probably wouldn't know this early, even if the hints point to it.
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Re: Game Hint #2

I honestly don't think that this hint adds that much more to the 1st hint, and everything that it did add, we have already said. I'm ready for a third hint!
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Anyone know if autonomous will be hybrid again, anything announced about it? Of not announced, do the hints point to it being hybrid again?

If it is hybrid, might give some ideas to the game, perhaps.
While we don't know yet, consider that we do have a new control system that has the capability to transmit video back to the driver station. I suspect a fair bit of R&D went in to the camera capabilities, and I would be surprised if it wasn't used in some way.

The reasoning behind the switch from autonomous to hybrid was that hybrid better simulated several types of robotic mission, particularly in space exploration where there is limited bandwidth and a significant time delay between signal transmission and reception. Likewise there are many robotic missions that need to be controlled using video.

Perhaps we will see curtains over the driver station, blocking the view of the field during "autonomous".... or perhaps the robots will start in full telop mode and the curtains will fall at the end of the match, requiring drivers to use the on-board cameras to complete one final task.

So no, we don't know... and honestly, after six years of reading these clues, I have to say that even if we DO figure out what the clues mean we won't know we've figured it out until the game is announced... but we do know that we have a new control system, and I'm willing to bet that the GDC is planning to use it to do something exciting that we could not do with the old one.


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Perhaps we will see curtains over the driver station, blocking the view of the field during "autonomous".... or perhaps the robots will start in full telop mode and the curtains will fall at the end of the match, requiring drivers to use the on-board cameras to complete one final task.
Yeah, someone mentioned curtains earlier, and I thought that would be a very cool addition, but some did say earlier also, that they had beta tested this, and they lagged while having the laptop viewing thought the camera, and controlling the bot, so it might not happen unless they fixed that lag, which would be a cool competition, blindfolded, pretty much, and can only rely on the camera.
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In the thread for Game Hint #1, somebody brought up that you can find an Opah on the stamp of Madeira, Portugal. The Flag of Madeira looks like it might be the layout of the playing field.



The blue could be icy/slick sections and the red could be a raised portion of the field.
I would like it to be a 4 sided rack like 07, but hey I'm just dreaming.

I'm guessing a field with little holes in it like craters along with a football shaped playing piece, most fits the "Crater Football Field" in (i think someone said Dover) and the crater like skin of the fish along with it's shape.
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Yeah, someone mentioned curtains earlier, and I thought that would be a very cool addition, but some did say earlier also, that they had beta tested this, and they lagged while having the laptop viewing thought the camera, and controlling the bot, so it might not happen unless they fixed that lag, which would be a cool competition, blindfolded, pretty much, and can only rely on the camera.
What If your robot had to remove the curtains, thus the faster your alliance did it, the faster they got an actual visual advantage rather than relying on the camera. Could be a quick objective at the beginning, and maybe even bonus for doing it during autonomous.
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Re: Game Hint #2

i already posted this earlier but, my school in phoenix is on central and we have hosted the kickoff the past couple of years. i thought this was where they got "get connected" because we reconnected with many of the teams we have faced in the past year. otherwise, the light rail is a good idea, whoever suggested it, but i wouldn't know how the GCD would know about it, as it is fairly new.
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I would like it to be a 4 sided rack like 07, but hey I'm just dreaming.

I'm guessing a field with little holes in it like craters along with a football shaped playing piece, most fits the "Crater Football Field" in (i think someone said Dover) and the crater like skin of the fish along with it's shape.
I am not sure about a four sided rack, but I think the four part of the clue might have to do with four different types of game pieces, or a 4 player free for all, maybe, and the craters go along with rugged terrain.
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What If your robot had to remove the curtains, thus the faster your alliance did it, the faster they got an actual visual advantage rather than relying on the camera. Could be a quick objective at the beginning, and maybe even bonus for doing it during autonomous.
That would be an awesome addition to that kind of game, I would imagine that doing that with a camera as your only visual would actually be very difficult, and they would have to make the curtains a certain color, so the y can be easily detected.
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