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This annoys me more than anything. CD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL ENCYCLOPEDIA!!!!!!!!!. It takes a lot more work to create a CD account and post your question than it does to read the rules, which almost certainly contains the answer.

Adobe Acrobat Reader has a search function. Use it and look in the rules for key words that apply to your question. If you want to know about CIM's, hit "ctrl-f" and type in "CIM". CD should not be the first place you look/ask. CD too has a search function. Odds are that at this point in the game, if you have a question about the balls/motors/field, it's already been asked. Use the search button!!!!!! You'll save your time, and ours.
This is exactly the problem with people these days.... too lazy to be lazy and use a search tool, And don't even get them started about looking through the rules themselves....
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Re: Another thread about CD etiquette? You bet.

CD has lost some of it's credibility as a good source of information. I feel in part because users put so many miscellaneous posts, that it's harder to thumb through them. So the question is, do you go to other sites for reliable answers and leave CD as a big "facebook" community, or does CD gain some of their credibility back and try to discourage some of the games that are played on the forums?
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Re: Another thread about CD etiquette? You bet.

There are some good reminders here to read and think about, put into action.
Resources are valuable and available.
Knowing how to use these resources is important as well. Members of FRC teams are comprised of different ages and different levels of experience. It is important to think about creating positions on the team that help in areas of obtaining information and communicating well.

Telling a team/team member to read the manual is a little different from introducing the manual and explaining the importance of it and how it will impact the success level of the team. Telling a team/team member to check out ChiefDelphi is a little different from introducing them to ChiefDelphi and showing them the different sections and how they break down such as electrical, programming, control system, team organization. A guided tour would prove to be very helpful during one of the team meetings.

In CD, when people start threads with a ‘quick question’ it can become frustrating and seemingly unproductive – but at the same time, it provides opportunities to help guide the new member of ChiefDelphi in the direction of proper research, searches, and understanding the process and work involved. There are moments in the shop when something is going on and a problem arises. Someone will say, hey ‘Joe’ – go post on CD and see if they can answer this. So Joe follows orders and posts on CD and then gets told to read the manual. These things happen. It’s good to remember that each of us is a resource and how we interact with our fellow FIRSTers in ChiefDelphi is important. If we are pointing them in the right direction, that is a good thing. If we are adding to the confusion without contributing much of anything, then we should pay attention to that as well.

There will be a lot of rookies accessing ChiefDelphi and learning about FRC and what that involves this year. A big part of that is discovering the value of the resources provided and how to use them wisely and efficiently. We can all help with that.
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Re: Another thread about CD etiquette? You bet.

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CD has lost some of it's credibility as a good source of information. I feel in part because users put so many miscellaneous posts, that it's harder to thumb through them. So the question is, do you go to other sites for reliable answers and leave CD as a big "facebook" community, or does CD gain some of their credibility back and try to discourage some of the games that are played on the forums?
I'm going to have to totally disagree with you about that. CD is still the definitive and best place to share and acquire information. It is well structured so if you don't want to see the miscellaneous post you don't have too.

It is also a great place to meet people from all around that share a like interest.

This is the first I have heard of anyone saying that CD has lost credibility.
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Re: Another thread about CD etiquette? You bet.

An addition for a slightly different perspective on the same topic:

Is your thread requesting help or feedback on a design?
  • You must be able to clearly articulate any specific questions about your design. If you don't know the questions you need to ask, it is better to put pride aside and say so! This keeps random conjectures about what everyone thinks you're asking to a minimum.
  • Link to any research, including CD links, near the end of your post.
  • Do not bump old posts on the same idea that have pages and pages ... and pages ... of discussion on the same or similar topic. It is very difficult for the rest of us to remember the fine details of those old threads and it takes too much time for us to read everyone's thoughts on the subject. Instead, link to specific posts within the thread that you want to reference. (There's a button on the right side of every post that will give you the link to that exact post in the thread.)
  • If there is information that you are deliberately leaving out due to trade secrets and whatnot, please say so. We won't chastise you for it; we understand the varying perspectives on team secrets and IP. Simply put, if you don't say so then there will be an infinite cycle of small bumps and off-topic sub-discussions that spawn from people asking questions that you don't want to give answers to.

Doing so will
  • Keep discussions more on-topic
  • Spread around what you've found to others who may also find it useful
  • Allow new ideas and findings to be discussed in a more relevant thread
  • Allow for better searching on the CD forums of relevant data rather than having to sift through pages and pages of data that sometimes do not apply any more.
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