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Your day off from FIRST

If you could leave the robot in the hands of your teammates without worrying for one day, what would you do with your day off?

If you're going to say sleep, put something else in there too.
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

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If you could leave the robot in the hands of your teammates without worrying for one day, what would you do with your day off?

If you're going to say sleep, put something else in there too.
Work.
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

Debate. The two are not happily coexisting with district tournaments coming up in the same month as build season and Buckeye.
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

Sleep

Go to school

Work on one of my rockets, which get neglected too much this time of year.

About 4 hours in, snap out of it, and go back to FIRST
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

Solve Clue #4.







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Re: Your day off from FIRST

oh man...

that means clue three is already out there...

WHY?????
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

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If you could leave the robot in the hands of your teammates without worrying for one day, what would you do with your day off?
I don't mean to sound harsh, & maybe I misunderstood the post altogether, but this post & question seems kind of arrogant the way I am reading it.

It implies the poster of an answer thinks that their TEAM can not survive a day without them.

While some teams have a limited amount of people & it may be more of a challenge, everyone on the team should know enough to be able to pick up the slack of a missing teammate if they are sick, or on vacation, or just missing for a day.

I'd like to think (and also know from experience) that my team can survive a day without myself, or ANY one member of my team as everyone needs to take a day off during the 6 weeks for something usually.

A company or team should be able to survive if someone is out for a day.
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

Yeah, I guess it could sound like that, sorry if I insulted you/your team.

I'm used to being the older member on a team of new people that have a bunch of classes togather so I basically have to be there.

Not to mention an indecisive coach.
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I don't mean to sound harsh, & maybe I misunderstood the post altogether, but this post & question seems kind of arrogant the way I am reading it.

It implies the poster of an answer thinks that their TEAM can not survive a day without them.

While some teams have a limited amount of people & it may be more of a challenge, everyone on the team should know enough to be able to pick up the slack of a missing teammate if they are sick, or on vacation, or just missing for a day.

I'd like to think (and also know from experience) that my team can survive a day without myself, or ANY one member of my team as everyone needs to take a day off during the 6 weeks for something usually.

A company or team should be able to survive if someone is out for a day.
Meh, I would not get too spun up over the wording. First off, it misses the point of an entertaining thread. Second, although your sentiments may be true for your team, they are not necessarily true for all teams. There may be times where a team truly cannot be successful without the participation of one key person. For any of a number of very legitimate reasons there may be various periods during a project where the expertise, knowledge, insight or skills of one particular person are so critical that they are irreplaceable. And the inverse is also true - there are times when the team cannot succeed with the participation of one poisonous personality. While both situations are to be avoided (and experienced teams will strive to do so), sometimes reality just gets in the way. This is not a desirable situation, and large organizations go to great lengths to avoid the inherent risks associated with such situations. But they do occur. The important part is knowing that potential single-point failures in the organization may exist, and being prepared to deal with them if necessary. That shows wisdom, not arrogance.

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Yeah, I guess it could sound like that, sorry if I insulted you/your team.

I'm used to being the older member on a team of new people that have a bunch of classes togather so I basically have to be there.
Not to mention an indecisive coach.
You didn't insult me that's for sure. lol
Maybe I was too harsh. Sorry for that.

My point was that we all hope we can have the convenience (even out of necessity in an emergency) of being able to take a day off from our team & not worrying that it will crash & burn without us that one day.

That said, I'll reply to your response.

I don't really miss sleep going to team meetings since we have them only when the school is open usually - until 8pm on weekdays & around 6pm or maybe a little later on weekends, but being there every day & having to think about ideas or do something is a mental strain & mentally & physically tiring at times, so catching up on sleep is an option I would take.

Other than that, participating in some winter activities such as a day to go snowboarding (if I were to skip a team meeting during the weekends) would be a plus!
Sometimes we do that & it is actually with team members if a meeting is canceled, so it's all good.
Even at times like that, the build season (for a day) is gone but not forgotten.
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For any of a number of very legitimate reasons there may be various periods during a project where the expertise, knowledge, insight or skills of one particular person are so critical that they are irreplaceable.
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Or maybe they are just the only person with the key to the work area and they get stuck unexpectedly someplace other than where they are needed.

I really enjoyed Dave's comment about the inverse too. I have been involved with such people more times than I care to remember. Nice to know I'm not the only one.
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Getting back on topic -

Skiing - only done that once since I got involved in FIRST. Southern California snow doesn't often last long enough to wait until the end of the season.
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Re: Your day off from FIRST

Most likely I would then be dead, as my lack of robots would come in and I would die from doing no robots.

If I didn't die, I would most likely go do some programming for myself.
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