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ANYONE HERE NOT PICKING UP BALLS?

Posted by Anton Abaya at 2/3/2001 4:44 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NONE AT THE MOMENT! .



seems like we have a lot of ball handlers.... so i'm guessing a BUNCH of robots with ARMS....

i can see lots of attempted hooks as well.

anyone not doing balls?

-anton (a ninny that owes nothing)
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we're not

Posted by Rob DeCotiis at 2/3/2001 5:10 PM EST


Student on team #504, RoBUCtics, from Red Bank Regional High School and Jesel.


In Reply to: ANYONE HERE NOT PICKING UP BALLS?
Posted by Anton Abaya on 2/3/2001 4:44 PM EST:



we're just gonna balance goals(i said we should use the gyro chip, but they rammed their arms down my throat and pulled my pancreas out... )
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aha!

Posted by Anton Abaya at 2/3/2001 5:28 PM EST


Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NONE AT THE MOMENT! .


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: we're just gonna balance goals(i said we should use the gyro chip, but they rammed their arms down my throat and pulled my pancreas out... )

but do not give up on it my friend. you are welcome to write the code and attach it. it doesnt weigh a thing anyway!

for that matter, i already know of some teams attempting this (and will probably succeed).

do NOT let your TEAM LEADERS stop you. they are ninnies. let the talent in ya shine!

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also no..

Posted by bill whitley at 2/4/2001 6:36 PM EST


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: : we're just gonna balance goals(i said we should use the gyro chip, but they rammed their arms down my throat and pulled my pancreas out... )

: but do not give up on it my friend. you are welcome to write the code and attach it. it doesnt weigh a thing anyway!

: for that matter, i already know of some teams attempting this (and will probably succeed).

: do NOT let your TEAM LEADERS stop you. they are ninnies. let the talent in ya shine!

: -anton
: the team leader who likes to let his team shine

Our team leaders (read: ninnies) were against picking up balls. A few of the students (including myself) were very interested in going after large balls, however the team leaders (read: ninnies) overruled us.

Bill
Team 70


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Re: ANYONE HERE NOT PICKING UP BALLS?

Posted by Adam Collet at 2/3/2001 7:52 PM EST


Student on team #159, Alpine Robotics, from Poudre High School and CSU, LSI, NASA.


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Posted by Anton Abaya on 2/3/2001 4:44 PM EST:



We aren't. We transport the goals, clear the balls from under the bridge, as well as stabalizing it.



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a little problem

Posted by Ken Leung at 2/4/2001 6:53 AM EST


Student on team #192, Gunn Robotics Team, from Henry M. Gunn Senior High School.


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Posted by Adam Collet on 2/3/2001 7:52 PM EST:



: We aren't. We transport the goals, clear the balls from under the bridge, as well as stabalizing it.


Well it seems like these days all I hear from people are that they are controling goals... clear balls, gate keeping, balancing. I am kind of worry that too many teams picked this strategy, and that all those teams are going to have a really hard time shining among the huge crowd of balancer/gatekeeper...

Is this just me, or lots of people actually decided to forget about balls and go straight for the multipliers... Maybe we won't have as much diverse robots as I thought.


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Re: a little problem

Posted by Peter Zobel at 2/4/2001 7:28 AM EST


Engineer on team #557, Alpha C.R.T., from Detroit Cooley and Ford Motor Company.


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Posted by Ken Leung on 2/4/2001 6:53 AM EST:



We are taking the goal/stretcher/bridge tack. I guess it was mainly our rookie team view of trying not to get in over our heads. The other tasks *seemed* simpler. Of course its true as one of our engineers pointed out that those who can handle the big balls will help their team and come out on top due to the 10% bonus. So maybe call it a rookie team strategy error?...there's always next year - ack!


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Re: a little problem

Posted by Chris Orimoto at 2/5/2001 2:46 AM EST


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Posted by Ken Leung on 2/4/2001 6:53 AM EST:



I COMPLETELY agree with you here, Ken. I too am noticing an increasing amount of teams that are attempting to grab the goals and balance one or both of them on the bridge. I genuinely hope that I (or maybe both of us for that matter) am incorrect in this view and that there will be a very diverse field in this year's competition. But, the more I think about it, the more I believe that we'll be seeing the SAME strategy EVERY round. This will also make determining a top score much more difficult, as with picking alliance partners for the elimination rounds.

Just my personal thoughts...

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Re: a little problem

Posted by Joe Ross at 2/5/2001 3:06 AM EST


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Posted by Chris Orimoto on 2/5/2001 2:46 AM EST:



Actually, if almost all the robots do the same thing, it makes it much easier to pick your alliance partners. Since you don't need a robot that duplicates your own, the number of robots to choose from is significantly reduced.


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Re: a little problem

Posted by Matt Leese at 2/5/2001 10:06 AM EST


Other on team #73, Tigerbolt, from Edison Technical HS and Alstom & Rochester Institute of Technology.


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Posted by Ken Leung on 2/4/2001 6:53 AM EST:



In reality isn't this to be expected? I mean, it's probably one of the simpler things to design and build (I'm not going to comment on execution). So most teams will probably end up going for something along these lines. Seems to me, this is the first FIRST competition (ah! double first) that had this level of specialization available. I'll be rather suprised if I see a 'bot capable of doing everything but only time will tell. I guess this makes me a little happier we're going after the little balls -- much easier to be a picked alliance.

Matt who figured everyone would be going after the big balls but guesses he was wrong.....
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