Windows 7

[cdennisxlx2]

Zune 3.1 was worse, i was part of the huge group of people who's first gen 30g zune froze today

for those of you who are oblivious to this, read this
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/12/31/z...res/index.html

[matt91]

I was never a big fan of the Zune, one of my friends has one and lives by it. I am more of an iPod type person...

In that report it mentioned a possible Y2K like meltdown- If that does end up happing then were all screwed... But hey MS could just fix that "small bug" with a SP update hahaha

[cdennisxlx2]

lol, well i used to be an ipod person but ended up having 3 break on me [between 1 and 5 months if getting a new one] so i got the zune when it came out and it only stopped working now because of the software update. life time just seems a lot longer i got over 2 years out of it before any problems.

[MrForbes]

I'm still on Windows 5....and I have some music players that don't know (or care) what day it is....

So, I guess news of Windows 7 is kinda irrelevant.

Windows 7 has potential, assuming M$ doesn't FUBAR this one like they did Vista. It's not the stability of Vista that got me, it was the ugly bloated theme that sucked down a HUGE portion of your power.

So assuming Windows 7 is decent, there's only ONE of my machine's that I'd run it on, that being my CAD machine. For portability I need 100% uptime, and I have had NO windows machine give me that. For my server, I'm still sticking to Linux.

Here's hoping M$ doesn't biff this one too.

[killerofkiller]

Originally Posted by CraigHickman

Windows 7 has potential, assuming M$ doesn't FUBAR this one like they did Vista. It's not the stability of Vista that got me, it was the ugly bloated theme that sucked down a HUGE portion of your power.

You do know that you can turn Aero off, and run the 'classic' theme just like xp.. invest in some ram, i'm running a 2.5 year old thinkpad with an old ati x1300 video card and it runs great with 2 gigs of ram...

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by killerofkiller

You do know that you can turn Aero off, and run the 'classic' theme just like xp.. invest in some ram, i'm running a 2.5 year old thinkpad with an old ati x1300 video card and it runs great with 2 gigs of ram...

Agreed, our team laptop runs Vista but BARELY met the requirements so we just turned all the fluff off, went all the way back to windows 98 look and feel.

[killerofkiller]

also, i was using Win7 build 6956(the one that leaked from the Chinese Conference) for about a month. And i just installed the 7000 build (beta1)
Runs like a dream, all the drivers installed perfectly. CS4, matlab, office and a few others all installed just fine. (If interested in how to get it, just use the googles )

Originally Posted by killerofkiller

also, i was using Win7 build 6956(the one that leaked from the Chinese Conference) for about a month. And i just installed the 7000 build (beta1)
Runs like a dream, all the drivers installed perfectly. CS4, matlab, office and a few others all installed just fine. (If interested in how to get it, just use the googles )

I am going to wait until I can get the beta legally from the MS site but it's amazing the good reviews of this OS so far and just how badly people want it, thats a good sign that MS might have come up with a winner after all the bad press they got on vista. I can't wait to get mine

[matt91]

Originally Posted by cdennisxlx2

lol, well i used to be an ipod person but ended up having 3 break on me [between 1 and 5 months if getting a new one] so i got the zune when it came out and it only stopped working now because of the software update. life time just seems a lot longer i got over 2 years out of it before any problems.

I guess im lucky then because my iPod Touch has lasted me almost a year with no problems, and my nano before that lasted about 2 years... maybe you just have bad Apple luck....

Back on topic here: I think that MS should try to get on the Unix train, i mean everything runs Unix except them. They should also try some Linux-Like graphic system, that seems not to take up much power..

[McGurky]

correct me if you think i am wrong here, but...

The problem with Microsoft, is that they make software, and nothing else.(with the exception of input devices and other devices) So when they make software, and it doesn't work with a lot of hardware, it is "there" fault.

where as apple Makes there Hardware and software, so they have most of the compatibility bugs worked out before the public uses it.

Originally Posted by McGurky

correct me if you think i am wrong here, but...

The problem with Microsoft, is that they make software, and nothing else.(with the exception of input devices and other devices) So when they make software, and it doesn't work with a lot of hardware, it is "there" fault.

where as apple Makes there Hardware and software, so they have most of the compatibility bugs worked out before the public uses it.

You're dead on. Another issue is the size of M$. Once you hit that many employees, your company becomes bloated. Too many chefs in the kitchen will spoil the soup, ya'dig?

[McGurky]

Well it can work with good management,(Google can seem to do it)

Really i think after 34 years Microsoft needs an overhaul, or a new managing team, because right now, they are on a downward spiral.(in my mind)

[R.C.]

Originally Posted by McGurky

Well it can work with good management,(Google can seem to do it)

Really i think after 34 years Microsoft needs an overhaul, or a new managing team, because right now, they are on a downward spiral.(in my mind)

Kinda, some of their stuff (huge xbox fan and it didn't work properly till after 3 years?) is good. But if you think about they are such large company and how many different types of computers are there. Each one needs their own drivers and not everyone is patient. I am not backing up microsoft for their terrible new platform but I think they know how bad their operating system is. Plus the thing with macs is that they don't have all these companies manufacturing different computers. Mac has their own line of unix comps. I returned my xbox 10 times, but still love it because of all the dang support for it aka games (HALO 3 and GEARS OF WAR 2). I can't use CAD or my other special programs on mac or linux without running some kind of emulator. So i guess we have to put up with microsoft and the alpha released seemed decent for windows 7.

-RC

[Nate Smith]

Originally Posted by McGurky

correct me if you think i am wrong here, but...

The problem with Microsoft, is that they make software, and nothing else.(with the exception of input devices and other devices) So when they make software, and it doesn't work with a lot of hardware, it is "there" fault.

where as apple Makes there Hardware and software, so they have most of the compatibility bugs worked out before the public uses it.

Let me throw this out there...currently on Newegg, they have a total of 496 AMD & Intel motherboards available(not counting anything only listed under combo or server motherboards.) With this large of a potential install base for Windows, can we reasonably expect Microsoft to be able to test on every potential hardware configuration to ensure compatability, or can we say that they are doing their part by releasing documentation that tells the various hardware manufacturers "this is how you make your hardware work with Windows"? If the hardware companies are given this info, and then choose not to do anything with it, where should the blame really fall?

As far as Apple is concerned, I think the argument can be made that they are more in the CE (consumer electronics) business than the computer business. Apple's focus is on a system where everything "just works," and they are able to accomplish this by having a very small "supported" hardware base, and simply not letting their software not work on anything else, just as, for example, you could not take your iPod OS and install it on your Zune(I realize the hardware isn't as similar in that example, but I think it makes the point). Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with this approach, I just believe that because of it, MS and Apple can be considered to be targeting different markets.