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Re: Windows 7

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So skipping every other Microsoft OS release is the way to go
98 OK , ME Bad , XP OK, Vista Bad
well personally i was ecstatic when i switched from dos to 3.1 then to 95

so really it was

3.1: good [for the time]
95: good
98: good
me: extremely bad
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2k: good
xp: good
vista: annoyingly bad [at least to me]
7: sounds great [especially since its going to be more enterprise geared]

just my 2 cents
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Re: Windows 7

I got vista for my home computer (the family computer), used it for a day, and never used it again. I RAN (really fast) to the Apple Store. Maybe Microsoft will redeem itself... or at least I hope so.

With the NXE for Xbox, the Zune 3.0 (i think), they seem to be on track for another fantastic release.
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Re: Windows 7

Zune 3.1 was worse, i was part of the huge group of people who's first gen 30g zune froze today

for those of you who are oblivious to this, read this
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/12/31/z...res/index.html
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Re: Windows 7

I was never a big fan of the Zune, one of my friends has one and lives by it. I am more of an iPod type person...

In that report it mentioned a possible Y2K like meltdown- If that does end up happing then were all screwed... But hey MS could just fix that "small bug" with a SP update hahaha
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Re: Windows 7

lol, well i used to be an ipod person but ended up having 3 break on me [between 1 and 5 months if getting a new one] so i got the zune when it came out and it only stopped working now because of the software update. life time just seems a lot longer i got over 2 years out of it before any problems.
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Re: Windows 7

I'm still on Windows 5....and I have some music players that don't know (or care) what day it is....

So, I guess news of Windows 7 is kinda irrelevant.
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Windows 7 has potential, assuming M$ doesn't FUBAR this one like they did Vista. It's not the stability of Vista that got me, it was the ugly bloated theme that sucked down a HUGE portion of your power.

So assuming Windows 7 is decent, there's only ONE of my machine's that I'd run it on, that being my CAD machine. For portability I need 100% uptime, and I have had NO windows machine give me that. For my server, I'm still sticking to Linux.

Here's hoping M$ doesn't biff this one too.
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Re: Windows 7

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lol, well i used to be an ipod person but ended up having 3 break on me [between 1 and 5 months if getting a new one] so i got the zune when it came out and it only stopped working now because of the software update. life time just seems a lot longer i got over 2 years out of it before any problems.

I guess im lucky then because my iPod Touch has lasted me almost a year with no problems, and my nano before that lasted about 2 years... maybe you just have bad Apple luck....

Back on topic here: I think that MS should try to get on the Unix train, i mean everything runs Unix except them. They should also try some Linux-Like graphic system, that seems not to take up much power..
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Re: Windows 7

correct me if you think i am wrong here, but...

The problem with Microsoft, is that they make software, and nothing else.(with the exception of input devices and other devices) So when they make software, and it doesn't work with a lot of hardware, it is "there" fault.

where as apple Makes there Hardware and software, so they have most of the compatibility bugs worked out before the public uses it.
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correct me if you think i am wrong here, but...

The problem with Microsoft, is that they make software, and nothing else.(with the exception of input devices and other devices) So when they make software, and it doesn't work with a lot of hardware, it is "there" fault.

where as apple Makes there Hardware and software, so they have most of the compatibility bugs worked out before the public uses it.
You're dead on. Another issue is the size of M$. Once you hit that many employees, your company becomes bloated. Too many chefs in the kitchen will spoil the soup, ya'dig?
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Re: Windows 7

Well it can work with good management,(Google can seem to do it)

Really i think after 34 years Microsoft needs an overhaul, or a new managing team, because right now, they are on a downward spiral.(in my mind)
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Well it can work with good management,(Google can seem to do it)

Really i think after 34 years Microsoft needs an overhaul, or a new managing team, because right now, they are on a downward spiral.(in my mind)
Kinda, some of their stuff (huge xbox fan and it didn't work properly till after 3 years?) is good. But if you think about they are such large company and how many different types of computers are there. Each one needs their own drivers and not everyone is patient. I am not backing up microsoft for their terrible new platform but I think they know how bad their operating system is. Plus the thing with macs is that they don't have all these companies manufacturing different computers. Mac has their own line of unix comps. I returned my xbox 10 times, but still love it because of all the dang support for it aka games (HALO 3 and GEARS OF WAR 2). I can't use CAD or my other special programs on mac or linux without running some kind of emulator. So i guess we have to put up with microsoft and the alpha released seemed decent for windows 7.

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What do you hope come with the new download?
Personally, I'm more interested in what's *not* coming with it. I like the idea of the slimmed down application bundle, etc. I've always felt that the Windows product line should focus more on the core system. Especially with the level of internet connectivity that is the norm in recent years, it'd be extremely easy to make such add-ons install-on-demand. Such a system has been working for Linux for years and years. Apt-get is by far my favorite reason for using Linux.
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correct me if you think i am wrong here, but...

The problem with Microsoft, is that they make software, and nothing else.(with the exception of input devices and other devices) So when they make software, and it doesn't work with a lot of hardware, it is "there" fault.

where as apple Makes there Hardware and software, so they have most of the compatibility bugs worked out before the public uses it.
Let me throw this out there...currently on Newegg, they have a total of 496 AMD & Intel motherboards available(not counting anything only listed under combo or server motherboards.) With this large of a potential install base for Windows, can we reasonably expect Microsoft to be able to test on every potential hardware configuration to ensure compatability, or can we say that they are doing their part by releasing documentation that tells the various hardware manufacturers "this is how you make your hardware work with Windows"? If the hardware companies are given this info, and then choose not to do anything with it, where should the blame really fall?

As far as Apple is concerned, I think the argument can be made that they are more in the CE (consumer electronics) business than the computer business. Apple's focus is on a system where everything "just works," and they are able to accomplish this by having a very small "supported" hardware base, and simply not letting their software not work on anything else, just as, for example, you could not take your iPod OS and install it on your Zune(I realize the hardware isn't as similar in that example, but I think it makes the point). Not that there is necessarily anything wrong with this approach, I just believe that because of it, MS and Apple can be considered to be targeting different markets.
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Re: Windows 7

I recently acquired a copy of Windows 7 Build 7000, and i must say i am extremely impressed. I installed it on my HP TX2000 tablet, which originally came pre-installed with Vista.

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From the moment i first booted the laptop from the factory it ran slowly. Even after i uninstalled all the "junk-wear" that came pre-installed it still ran relatively slowly, and would often lock-up for minuets or just freeze completely. I had many BSOD's all with different causes, which made troubleshooting impossible. The boot up was slow, sometimes it would be 10 minutes before i could use it. I tried to improve performance by turning off most of the visual features and tweaked it as much as i could, but to little improvement.


So out of frustration I emailed HP and requested the XP drivers for the laptop, I explained that vista was not performing how i wanted it to and that I had purchased a copy of XP Tablet 2005 and wished to install it instead. And within 1/2 a day I received a reply with a link to the ftp site for the laptop which contained all the xp drivers. So i proceed to partition my hard drive to maintain the vista OS and installed XP on the new partition. After i had installed all the drivers and such it ran very well. Xp booted in seconds not minutes and i rarely had lookups. However as i used it more i kept having issues with the drivers from HP. Even though they were correct and up-to-date, i kept getting reoccurring BSOD's all driver related. But i took it with the territory and put up with them.
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So when i got the chance to install the alpha release of Windows 7, i installed it over my old vista partition. What amazed me the most during the install was how fast it was. From the start of the installer to to its finish took around 10 minuets, not accounting for time spent traversing through the dialog boxes. Further still was that during the installation the installer popped up asking which wireless network to connect to, so that it could retrieve the latest updates from Microsoft, without asking me for the wi-fi driver before hand. Something i had only seen in Linux installations. After the installation completed i only needed to install the video driver, the tablet driver, and the finger print reader software, to get full functionality, better still was that all the drivers were just the vista drivers already available from HP's site.

After i had everything set up my overall impression is that Windows 7 huge step up from vista and light years ahead of XP. Its amazing, i retained all of the vista features and visuals yet maintain better performance than XP. While the boot is still a little slower than XP, once its booted everything runs so well. Programs start much faster, with more reliability. Not to mention that i have been running it straight for 4 days now without a single hang-up, freeze, or error message, even after i installed Inventor 09 and Adobe CS4, ect. I really looking forward to the release of Windows 7, and without a doubt this will be the best Windows yet.
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