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What does 0.06 mean? 0.00 means there is no friction at all, 1.00 means they are solidly locked (maybe glued together?). Anything in between is how much they can slip, or more accurately how easily they can slip against each other. This Coefficient of Friction is denoted by the greek letter Mu.

A rubber tire against dry pavement has a Mu of maybe 0.8 or 0.9
That same tire has a Mu of about 0.1 or 0.2 on smooth ice.
A spiked golf shoe has a mu close to 1.00 on carpet.

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That's really not a correct description of friction. A Mu of 1.00 does not mean two surfaces are solidly locked together. There is no limitation that mu must be between 0-1. In fact many object pairs have a mu greater than 1.00. Mu is a dimensionless constant found by comparing the downward force on an object to the force resisting its motion. For example in you have a 120 lb robot a mu of .05 means only the wheels can exert 6 lbs of forward force using friction before they being to slip. If the wheels have a mu of 1.5 then the robot can exert 180 of pounds of force using a frictional connection to the ground before slipping.

A real world example of a mu higher than one would be copper on copper 1.3 silver on silver 1.5 etc. source: http://www.engineershandbook.com/Tab...efficients.htm
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Re: Wheel Confusion

And as a point of reference the old roughtop/wedgetop tread used by many teams prior to being made instantly obsolete yesterday has a CoF around 1.2-1.3 on the old playing carpet. Alas, it is a whole new era...
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Re: Wheel Confusion

how is this supposed to simulate traction on the moon? .05 is like 1/20 what we had not 1/6?
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Re: Wheel Confusion

The surface of the moon is dusty, from what I hear. The gravity is 1/6, which would generally make the friction 1/6. The only question is what is your baseline for friction on a dusty surface on Earth.

I don't think they really are aiming for literal accuracy here, the moon theme is just that, a theme.
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