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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

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On the other hand, pinning them to dump the contents of your robot into their trailer may be a more viable strategy.
Or get your entire alliance to pin them
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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

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Is there a rule saying that you can't make something that pushes and pulls your trailer back and like a tail wags, making it a harder target? As long as its within the dimensions.
<R18> seems to forbid a moving hitch -- "B. The Trailer Hitch must be rigidly attached to a fixed location on the ROBOT..."
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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

i cant find anything in the rules that defines grasping but i think i read something earlier that said if the referee rules that if you where to back up or spin and the opponents trailer where to have the same orientation as before that was considered grasping. could someone clarify this for me.
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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

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i cant find anything in the rules that defines grasping but i think i read something earlier that said if the referee rules that if you where to back up or spin and the opponents trailer where to have the same orientation as before that was considered grasping. could someone clarify this for me.
You're probably thinking of the definition of POSSESSION in 7.2. But that's a pretty good approximation of robot grasping as well. There have been rules against grasping, grappling, etc before (e.g. Rack n Roll) but I don't recall any specific definition.
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I don't think you could build official bumpers in an indent, because the bumper zone is defined by the polygon formed if you wrap a string around your robot, so you can't have official bumpers in indents.
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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

I agree with csl, its not <G29> that prevents you from wagging your own trailer like a dogs tail, its <R18> through its requirement that your trailer hitch be mounted to a FIXED location. <G29> is what stops you from grabbing, grasping, or grappling another robots trailer, presumably with the intent to hold it in place relative to your robot so you could dump the contents of some sort of hopper into it. However, I think shoving a trailer into the wall will be similarly effective for the 2 to 3 seconds you would need to do so.
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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

what this guy is saying, actually makes sence... if you pinn them in the right corner, ie: away from the opposing alliance's PAYLOAD SPECIALIST'S (there are two such corners on the field)

this is a good startegy, you can indirectly cancel out high powered teams with a box on wheels with a little wedge in the shape of a trailer. now thats a viable strategy for rookes...

imagine a game where rookes > vetreans. that would be shocking, and that is possible
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Re: Is pinning opposing robots trailers allowed?

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The Robot. Section 8, Page 3. Rev A
BUMPER PERIMETER – the polygon defined by the outer-most set of exterior vertices on the ROBOT (without the BUMPERS attached) that are within the BUMPER ZONE. To determine the BUMPER PERIMETER, wrap a piece of string around the ROBOT at the level of the BUMPER ZONE - the string describes this polygon. The BUMPER PERIMETER may extend up to, but cannot exceed, the maximum ROBOT volume constraints defined in Rule <R11>.


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