YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2009's Week 1 Regionals

[=Martin=Taylor=]

Really? You all think the HPs will make more shots than the bots?

I've watched some '02 vids. The HPs didn't make many shots. And those goals were much bigger, and they didn't have a pole in the middle!!

I'm willing to bet each HP makes 2-3 shots per match.

I'll bet that in a normal match, with one "good" bot and two mediocre ones, the robots will score 15 rocks all together.

If super cells are scored, only one will be scored, and it won't happen often...

Average Total: ~45
Max (Rare match): ~90

I think scores will vary wildly. If a robot can't move fast enough, your alliance will suffer greatly.

[smurfgirl]

I proposed to my team earlier today that the "average" match score we'll see will be in the 50-70 range, probably towards the 50 side for week 1 regionals. Well-played matches will probably be 100-110, especially as the regionals progress.

[Cory]

Average cumulative match score: 35

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII

Really? You all think the HPs will make more shots than the bots?

I've watched some '02 vids. The HPs didn't make many shots. And those goals were much bigger, and they didn't have a pole in the middle!!

The 02 goal did have a pole in the middle, but I agree. It is going to be very difficult to throw these into a moving goal.

[Greg Peshek]

I'm thinking this game will be lower scoring than most seem to believe, somewhere in the 25-35 range for each alliance. (When all the robots show up and work).

When the robots don't show up and work.. expect alliances with up to 50-65 points just from good human play, not to mention people just doing pure dumps into the non-moving goal.

For the average match - I'm guessing 30.

[AlexD744]

Originally Posted by Greg Peshek

I'm thinking this game will be lower scoring than most seem to believe, somewhere in the 25-35 range for each alliance. (When all the robots show up and work).

When the robots don't show up and work.. expect alliances with up to 50-65 points just from good human play, not to mention people just doing pure dumps into the non-moving goal.

For the average match - I'm guessing 30.

The goals will move because other teams will push them, however, they will be easier targets and it will be harder for that team to play defense and offense.

[Mike8519]

Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII

Really? You all think the HPs will make more shots than the bots?

I've watched some '02 vids. The HPs didn't make many shots. And those goals were much bigger, and they didn't have a pole in the middle!!

Actually the Zone Zeal ('02) goals did have big PVC poles in the center and the Soccer balls had much more of a tendency to hit the tops of the PVC poles and bounce away. The rocks/cells do not bounce nearly as much. '04 goals had no poles and HP's made quite a few shots since the big goals were stationary and the mobile goals were often used once to catch the dumped balls from the overhead release.

Anyway, I tend to think that in the beginning of auto a somewhat practiced HP should be able to make 2 (perhaps 3) before the robot really starts moving quickly. So perhaps 12-18 points before auto is over.

As for during the match I expect HP's to be doing more scoring than a moving robot with a moving target, although I am sure there will be robots excellent at shooting that will likely not be the norm. The goals will not be abruptly changing position (aside from collisions) given the traction so the HP shots are possible, but you better start practicing now .

Perhaps 40-50 points will be average. I think seeing more than 1-2 super cells implemented successfully in a match will be a bit uncommon.

[Enigma's puzzle]

Im going to guess 20 to 30 per alliance per match

the total combined score of both alliances at 50.

[Nawaid Ladak]

depends which week 1 event your talking of

midwest will be higher than the other regionals in my opinion

midwest: maybe 35, more like 30, high score will be between 60-65... most likely during eliminations

everyone else: around 20-25... high scores will be between 45-55

if 103 and xX good robot hook up on Friday morning, watch out we might see 70 up in NJ

[Michael Corsetto]

For me, it is much harder to make these shots than throwing the 5 point balls in 2004, and thats while keeping our trailer mock up still only 10 feet away. Add in the moving factor (which 2004 didn't have) and it makes for some very difficult shots. Human players must be ready to take advantage of any stopped opponents within their known range if they plan to score a decent amount.

For Week 1, I'll say average score of around 40.

[MrForbes]

keep in mind that those robots without a working autonomous are going to collect opponent HP moon rocks real fast at the beginning of the game.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by squirrel

keep in mind that those robots without a working autonomous are going to collect opponent HP moon rocks real fast at the beginning of the game.

I don't believe there will be very many robots without an autonomous mode.

That being said, I predict the average game will be ~40-50 points with the maximum over 120.

[Jonathan Norris]

The only human player scoring will really be done when a robot is stopped near a payload specialist or an end wall, robot scoring on other bots will account for at least 80% of scoring once teams figure out how to play the game.

First week average: 30-40 points

eventually getting to the 50-60 range weeks later.

[=Martin=Taylor=]

Average of 18 responses ~ 44.5

[clean399]

I am gonna go high on this one and say that average scores at the end of the competitions of week 1 will be about 75. I am sure that in the beginning not as much robot scoring will be happening because drivers getting used to the floor (if possible), but the human players can score during autonomous which will give them an advantage if robots get stuck or do not move during autonomous.

So going out on a limb I say 75.

[Jreed129]

my guess would be that scores are not going to be that far from each other due to <G14>

i also think that due to rule <G22> the scores will not be that high because HP will want to throw the SuperCells before the last 20second it that is all that's left.

my average guess would be around 6-24