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Re: Green and pink painted robot (Good defence?)

I thought of the exact same strategy, but the high cost ruled it out for me

Well it all depends on how the robot was programmed. There is a chance that it may interfere with the aiming system, but at the same time they may have angled their cameras not to look at targets as low as your robot.

And don't forget, it may interfere with your alliance also...
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (Good defence?)

I responded to your original and so I will repost here
See R02 part C
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (Good defence?)

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it may interfere with your alliance also...
Yea, there goes my idea, UNLESS you just had a random pole sticking up (not exceeding max height) that was the same collor pattern as your alliances, YEA THAT MIGHT WORK!

Edit: im going to clarify this with Q&A because this seems to be a legit defence strategy and im worried that they wouldnt allow it

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Re: Green and pink painted robot (Good defence?)

Eric et al,
A robot employing such colorful marking(s) should not make it through inspection. However, (S04) would cover any team that reintroduced such color or which made it through inspection without notice.
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

what about a robot that has traditionally been painted pink, or at least contained some pink as design on their robot (don;t know them personally, but I've heard of the Pink Team)?
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

As for MOE and Pink, I'm sure that something will be thought of. For example, MOE's other color is black, I believe.

Al, I do realize that it wouldn't make it through inspection. I also realize that occasionally there are inspectors who don't check as well as they should.
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

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Al, I do realize that it wouldn't make it through inspection. I also realize that occasionally there are inspectors who don't check as well as they should.
Hopefully no teams really go that extra mile and actually paint their robot these colors, they may get pass inspection a few times, but the first time there is a noticeable affect to a robots aiming, they will make a rule against it
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

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Hopefully no teams really go that extra mile and actually paint their robot these colors, they may get pass inspection a few times, but the first time there is a noticeable affect to a robots aiming, they will make a rule against it
There already is, as I posted earlier.
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

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As for MOE and Pink, I'm sure that something will be thought of. For example, MOE's other color is black, I believe.

Al, I do realize that it wouldn't make it through inspection. I also realize that occasionally there are inspectors who don't check as well as they should.
MOE will plan to check this year's bot/paint scheme with the camera to ensure no issues. Our other color is black, so we should be able to work out our bot asthetics so that teams tracking the trailers do not have a problem.

I will say that the green fabric for the targets matches our green bumper material very closely!
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Re: Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

Historically, the ROBOT markings to DELIBERATELY confuse other ROBOTs vision systems rule has not been a problem for MOE(365) and Pink (233). Good vision code should be able to reject blobs that arent the right shape anyway, and a green (MOE) or pink robot would be entirely the wrong shape. Also, I think since these two teams have had their robots colored those colors for years that UNLESS it was actively causing a problem on the field, an inspector wouldn't give them any flack for it. 233 and 365 are both seasoned veteran teams, however, that as Dean and Woodie say GET FIRST. I can assure you that 233/365 would not be using their coloring in an attempt to gain an advantage. After all, that anodizing adds weight.
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