Green and pink painted robot (a good defence?)

[neoshaakti]

what about a robot that has traditionally been painted pink, or at least contained some pink as design on their robot (don;t know them personally, but I've heard of the Pink Team)?

[Alex Dinsmoor]

Originally Posted by EricVanWyk

I wonder how this will impact the traditional Pink and Green teams. Moe has been green for years, do they have to mute their color this year?

No, because the vision systems (well at least from what I discussed with the mentors on my team) are going to be looking at the color pattern of the post, not just say the color green (365) or pink (233).

It would be interesting if they played on the same field though

[EricH]

As for MOE and Pink, I'm sure that something will be thought of. For example, MOE's other color is black, I believe.

Al, I do realize that it wouldn't make it through inspection. I also realize that occasionally there are inspectors who don't check as well as they should.

[Alex Dinsmoor]

Originally Posted by EricH

Al, I do realize that it wouldn't make it through inspection. I also realize that occasionally there are inspectors who don't check as well as they should.

Hopefully no teams really go that extra mile and actually paint their robot these colors, they may get pass inspection a few times, but the first time there is a noticeable affect to a robots aiming, they will make a rule against it

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor

Hopefully no teams really go that extra mile and actually paint their robot these colors, they may get pass inspection a few times, but the first time there is a noticeable affect to a robots aiming, they will make a rule against it

There already is, as I posted earlier.

[MPG]

this poses a problem for our team because out team colors are both pink and green. the material given out in the kit for the top of the trailer is the same color and material that we have been using for years on our bumpers. does this mean that we are going to have to change our bumpers to a different color??

[Alex Dinsmoor]

Originally Posted by EricH

There already is, as I posted earlier.

What I meant was make it more specific to tailor to actual painting of the robot. As it is right now it only mentions the changing of a robots color, and nothing about robots of that color initially.

Originally Posted by MPG

this poses a problem for our team because out team colors are both pink and green. the material given out in the kit for the top of the trailer is the same color and material that we have been using for years on our bumpers. does this mean that we are going to have to change our bumpers to a different color??

Hmm, you should probably ask in the Q&A about this. To play it safe I would suggest just making your bumpers one solid color this year. That way no one can accuse you of interfering with their robot.

[Joe Ross]

A properly designed vision system would reject an all green or all pink robot (both colors aren't together). They would also reject a green and pink robot, because the colors wouldn't be at the right height.

I think very few teams will have a vision system that does both of those things, but it shouldn't be possible to mess up the best teams through such means.

[Kyle]

When the vision system first came out MOE tested this many, many times and found no problem with the camera attracting to our bot's or anything else that it wasn't programed to, now that was a few years ago so I can't speak for this years cameras.

[mrmummert]

Hi...

In 2005 (our rookie year) our robot was painted Yellow (as its been every year since) We did'nt know until we got to the regional that it might be a problem. Luckly it was'nt and we were allowed to compete in our colors.

Vision colors in 2005 were Yellow (if i remember right for the corner goals)
and Green for the Vision tetras. We had one of the better autonomous camera
programs and accually almost scored on the center goal in autonomous.

[screw_in_my_arm]

My school's rookie FRC year was last years overdrive, so I just want to clear this up. Can we, or can we not paint our robot ( frame, protective cover...etc ) ?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by screw_in_my_arm

My school's rookie FRC year was last years overdrive, so I just want to clear this up. Can we, or can we not paint our robot ( frame, protective cover...etc ) ?

Paint (or other coloring) is fine. However, it is a decoration (Alex--there's your answer; it's a decoration that may or may not be intended to interfere) and subject to rules about decorations.

[notaPINKtruck]

Well I guess we'll find out if one of them has an effect...

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Let's face some reality here, as Erik and Joe pointed out earlier, a correctly designed vision system should not look for colors at the level of a robot, the colors are higher than that. The robot max vertical dimension is 60 inches while the trailer colors extend from 59" to 83". Considering the look angle of the supplied camera lens, at a distance the camera would see the full robot. But close up in shooting range, the vision system should only be looking above the 59" height. Each robot is considered individually when inspected. Team colors would not automatically produce concern. However, a checkboard pattern of green and pink in the shades used on the goal would be a cause for concern.

[Mr MOE]

Originally Posted by EricH

As for MOE and Pink, I'm sure that something will be thought of. For example, MOE's other color is black, I believe.

Al, I do realize that it wouldn't make it through inspection. I also realize that occasionally there are inspectors who don't check as well as they should.

MOE will plan to check this year's bot/paint scheme with the camera to ensure no issues. Our other color is black, so we should be able to work out our bot asthetics so that teams tracking the trailers do not have a problem.

I will say that the green fabric for the targets matches our green bumper material very closely!