Go to Post On these forums, there are so many people that we see working all of the time to try to help teams out, and just overall good people. To everyone who does that, thanks. - miketwalker [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > ChiefDelphi.com Website > Extra Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 06:17
falconmaster's Avatar
falconmaster falconmaster is offline
Registered User
AKA: Ledge
FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 1,406
falconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to falconmaster
pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 06:22
Leav's Avatar
Leav Leav is offline
Spud Gun Division
AKA: Leav Oz-Ari
FRC #3316 (D-Bug)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Technion, Haifa, Israel
Posts: 774
Leav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond reputeLeav has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via ICQ to Leav Send a message via AIM to Leav Send a message via MSN to Leav
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Wow you guys are quick with your decisions, huh?

This is fiber glass profiles, right?
(If I remember correctly from your overdrive chassis)

Regarding the cheesing: arn't you cutting a little close (literally...)?

the space between those holes seems very very thin!

-Leav
__________________
"We choose to build robots this season and do the other things; Not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
-Paraphrasing JFK

Participated in FIRST as a student: 2005-2006 (But still learning every season!)
Mentor: 2008 - ? (Team 2630 2008-2011, and Team 3316 since 2013)
Engineer: 2011 - ? (B.Sc. and M.Sc. in Mech. Eng. from the Technion IIT)
FIRST Volunteer - 2007 - ? (MC, FTA, FIRST Aid etc.)
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 09:51
MrForbes's Avatar
MrForbes MrForbes is online now
Registered User
AKA: Jim
FRC #1726 (N.E.R.D.S.)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Posts: 6,016
MrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond reputeMrForbes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

I saw the chassis sitting on the work bench last night on the webcast

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/falcon-robotics-team-842

This will be fun to watch progress on! hopefully we'll take a break from watching, and work on our design
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 10:34
Elgin Clock's Avatar
Elgin Clock Elgin Clock is offline
updates this status less than FB!
AKA: the one who "will break into your thoughts..."
FRC #0237 (Black Magic)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2001
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: H20-Town, Connecticut
Posts: 7,773
Elgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond reputeElgin Clock has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Elgin Clock
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Have you fully planned everything in CAD with your robot at this point?

The reason I ask this, is because swiss-cheesing a robot at this early in the game without knowing what will be mounted on it along the way is not the best of ideas imho.

We've prematurely swiss-cheesed chassis other years, only to have a nice hole right where we want to mount something.

CAD planning can help avoid that, but since most team's don't use that to it's full potential, swiss-cheesing at the last week, as opposed to the first week, is probably the best way to go.

Just wondering why you chose to make so many holes so soon.
__________________
The influence of many leads to the individuality of one. - E.C.C. (That's me!!)

Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 12:20
falconmaster's Avatar
falconmaster falconmaster is offline
Registered User
AKA: Ledge
FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 1,406
falconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to falconmaster
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

We mount everything on the 1 inch lip, nothing will go on the cheese sides. We could still screw up though, we are crossing our fingers
__________________
Faridodin "Fredi" Lajvardi KD7WKD
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 13:13
TheOtherGuy's Avatar
TheOtherGuy TheOtherGuy is offline
Unregistered User
AKA: Kevin Forbes
FRC #4183 (Bit Buckets)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 408
TheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond reputeTheOtherGuy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Me and my brother (GUI) were wondering if you thought about bumpers for the front(?) two corners? We rechecked the rules on bumpers; <R08> A requires each segment to be at least 6" long, <R08> I requires all exterior corners to have bumpers, and <R08> M says the entire length of the bumper needs to be supported by the robot structure. I can't tell exactly what's going on there, so you may want to recheck those ones

Other than that, that's one beast frame! I love the cheese-holing job! Is there a specific reason you kept the long and narrow orientation of the drive train?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 13:18
zachjo's Avatar
zachjo zachjo is offline
Shake 'N' Bake
FRC #0171 (Cheese Curd Herd formerly Extreme Engineering)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Platteville WI
Posts: 74
zachjo is a jewel in the roughzachjo is a jewel in the roughzachjo is a jewel in the rough
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

so if 10lbs is gone, how much weight is left?
__________________
unicycling----It's like doing a wheelie forever!

Shake 'N' Bake

Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 16:42
falconmaster's Avatar
falconmaster falconmaster is offline
Registered User
AKA: Ledge
FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 1,406
falconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to falconmaster
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

14lbs
__________________
Faridodin "Fredi" Lajvardi KD7WKD
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 16:46
falconmaster's Avatar
falconmaster falconmaster is offline
Registered User
AKA: Ledge
FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 1,406
falconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond reputefalconmaster has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to falconmaster
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy View Post
Me and my brother (GUI) were wondering if you thought about bumpers for the front(?) two corners? We rechecked the rules on bumpers; <R08> A requires each segment to be at least 6" long, <R08> I requires all exterior corners to have bumpers, and <R08> M says the entire length of the bumper needs to be supported by the robot structure. I can't tell exactly what's going on there, so you may want to recheck those ones

Other than that, that's one beast frame! I love the cheese-holing job! Is there a specific reason you kept the long and narrow orientation of the drive train?
We will have to double check the rules on bumpers....I guess we could redesign to make a point instead of the little square ends

we wanted the wheels further up to the front, but we need to turn them and that would interfere with our ball retrieving from the floor. So we moved them back so the wheel footprint is a square.
__________________
Faridodin "Fredi" Lajvardi KD7WKD
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-01-2009, 20:23
Woody1458's Avatar
Woody1458 Woody1458 is offline
AKA: Woody Jansen
FRC #1458 (Danvillans)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Danville, California
Posts: 286
Woody1458 is a splendid one to beholdWoody1458 is a splendid one to beholdWoody1458 is a splendid one to beholdWoody1458 is a splendid one to beholdWoody1458 is a splendid one to beholdWoody1458 is a splendid one to beholdWoody1458 is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via AIM to Woody1458
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Awesome frame! I have long been trying to convince my team to do a fiber glass frame. 1 point however, using idler wheels (as it appears you will on the front) will take weight away from your drive wheels reducing your friction that could help you accelerate.
__________________
"Everything we produce is made of: Duct Tape, zip ties, and hope" - Christian Allinson 1458

Anyone can watch Westcoast Choppers and see adults build things, but FIRST is great because it encourages kids to do the building and adults to do the watching.

GO DANVILLANS!!
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 07-01-2009, 01:00
GUI GUI is offline
Registered User
AKA: Gary
FRC #4183 (Bit Buckets)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 229
GUI is a splendid one to beholdGUI is a splendid one to beholdGUI is a splendid one to beholdGUI is a splendid one to beholdGUI is a splendid one to beholdGUI is a splendid one to beholdGUI is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via Yahoo to GUI
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leav View Post
Wow you guys are quick with your decisions, huh?

This is fiber glass profiles, right?
(If I remember correctly from your overdrive chassis)

Regarding the cheesing: arn't you cutting a little close (literally...)?

the space between those holes seems very very thin!

-Leav
1726's robot in 2006 had similar construction, with much more material removed than this (40 bs overweight three days before ship...), and it held up fine. I also believe the cheesing pattern on that bot was a bit weaker than this.
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 07-01-2009, 01:37
Donut Donut is offline
The Arizona Mentor
AKA: Andrew
FRC #2662 (RoboKrew)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Goodyear, AZ
Posts: 1,302
Donut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond reputeDonut has a reputation beyond repute
Re: pic: 842's Robot Chassis - Carmen cheesed rear

A nice looking robot as usual from 842. I expect to see a similar chassis design in many of the effective scorers at AZ (and everywhere) this year.

Now I have to ponder, what goes on top of this?
__________________
FRC Team 498 (Peoria, AZ), Student: 2004 - 2007
FRC Team 498 (Peoria, AZ), Mentor: 2008 - 2011
FRC Team 167 (Iowa City, IA), Mentor: 2012 - 2014
FRC Team 2662 (Tolleson, AZ), Mentor: 2014 - Present
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slow-Mo Videos of 842's Robot Virginia's Dream kE7JLM Robot Showcase 2 20-02-2008 12:12
pic: Virginia's rear ground clearance falconmaster Extra Discussion 7 25-01-2008 23:31
pic: Top view Cheesed robot falconmaster Extra Discussion 4 18-01-2008 12:03
pic: 237 rear window sticker Jay H 237 Extra Discussion 2 28-02-2005 12:06
pic: Fiberglass robot chassis falconmaster Robot Showcase 13 08-02-2005 23:42


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 22:52.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi