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Re: Can we use duck tape?

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As a matter of fact, FIRST has neglected to publicly state the order of precedence for rules, updates, Q&As, etc. for the last couple of years. Especially with sources of information like the Director's Blog, it's time that they put something in writing for the teams.
The way i think of it is like the three branches of the America government (sorry non Yankees) Q&A being the Judicial Branch, Updates being Legislative, and Referees being Executive. If you don't understand this,consult wikipedia or your 8th grade history textbook
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

there is a statement that says you cant use ducktape which was that you wernt allowed to use adhesives.
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

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there is a statement that says you cant use ducktape which was that you wernt allowed to use adhesives.
Find it this year and quote the rule.
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

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Find it this year and quote the rule.
He's gonna be searching for a reallllly long time
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He's gonna be searching for a reallllly long time
Which is why I sent him to the manual. He may as well become a rules expert too.
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

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Which is why I sent him to the manual. He may as well become a rules expert too.
You just might succeed in your genius plan to make everyone read the manual.

(What a happy place FIRST would be if everyone could just complete that simple task.)
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

We can use duck tape !? Holy smokes, this changes ....


... nothing, oddly.
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

A word search in the Robot Rules did not find a refernce to duct tape or adhesives related to tape.
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

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A word search in the Robot Rules did not find a refernce to duct tape or adhesives related to tape.
It hasn't been mentioned.... yet.
We'll see whether the Q&A brings any direct answers.
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

I feel certain that if there is a NEW rule... an omission on the part of the GDC.. that needs to be addressed... that it WILL be in an UPDATE.

This is different from an interpretation of a rule... not all of those get into the Updates... for good reason...

Significant changes are always addressed in the UPDATES...

Significant Interpretations are usually addressed in the UPDATES...

Your team should have a RULES person designated.... it is THEIR JOB
to read all the Q and A and to read the UPDATES and report this back to the team.

We should take some of the burden on OUR shoulders as FRC teams to be responsible to read the information that is provided to us.

The GDC and Q and A staff are taking a great deal of time doing the Q and A and the UPDATES...

Step up to your responsibility as a team also...

READ THE MANUAL...FIRST ... then READ IT AGAIN>>>
When you have a question... do research on Q and A to see if your question is there... if it isn't answered somewhere... Ask it directly...and be specific....

thanks and I hope everyone has a great season!!
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...r_ducttape.htm

Hey, if duct tape was used on the moon . . .

If it's good enough for a manned moon vehicle . .

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Re: Can we use duck tape?

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Hey, if duct tape was used on the moon . . .

If it's good enough for a manned moon vehicle . .
FIRST celebrates 40th anniversary of moon landing by allowing use of duct tape on robots?

Probably not the GDC's intent...
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

One of our mentors claims it's to teach teams what happens to robots made out of duct tape.
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The way i think of it is like the three branches of the America government (sorry non Yankees) Q&A being the Judicial Branch, Updates being Legislative, and Referees being Executive. If you don't understand this,consult wikipedia or your 8th grade history textbook
Wouldn't the referees be in the judicial?
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Re: Can we use duck tape?

Team Update 1 fixed the Parts Use Flowchart in section 8.4. What had been missing was the lower left corner which in 2008 contained boxes about tape and additional energy sources. For 2009 they added back the box about energy sources (including the prohibition on gerbils), but left the tape box out. I think it's pretty clear they intended to allow tape, but you can always ask Q&A.
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