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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

Looking at the intent of the rule, your configuration is illegal because the goal could protrude into your robot.
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

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Looking at the intent of the rule, your configuration is illegal because the goal could protrude into your robot.
You don't know the intent of the rule and, further, even there are 6" bumpers along the front edge, it's still possible for the trailer to protrude into the robot.
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

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You don't know the intent of the rule and, further, even there are 6" bumpers along the front edge, it's still possible for the trailer to protrude into the robot.
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But when taken together and the robot is designed to satisfy ALL of the requirements of the rule, these clauses can have a very pronounced effect. In the case of the archetype “wide drive” robot with a centered opening on the front of the robot, this can result in a significant limit on the size of the opening. This limits the ability for incursion inside the bumper perimeter by the trailer. See the example below.

Based on the small paragraph below the highlights of R08 they state that the bumpers limit the goal incursion. I suppose to both limit trapping offense tactics and minimize damage if a trailer goes inside a robot.
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

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Looking at the intent of the rule, your configuration is illegal because the goal could protrude into your robot.
Which rule are you referring to?
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

The text under the highlighted points of R08 in team update #2 has a few choice words that lead me to believe their intent is to prevent a high level of goal incursion I suppose for robot safety and limiting offensive tactics.
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

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The text under the highlighted points of R08 in team update #2 has a few choice words that lead me to believe their intent is to prevent a high level of goal incursion I suppose for robot safety and limiting offensive tactics.
I think it was meant to point out that many legal bumper configurations allow the goal to protrude, and teams should be aware of possible goal to inner robot interaction.
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

The GDC has spoken

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=11159

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2. As indicated in Rule <R08-I>, all exterior corners of the BUMPER PERIMETER must be protected by BUMPERS. Both "sides" of the corner must be protected.
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Re: pic: Legal Bumper Configuration?

Well, we know it's not legal now.

We've made our changes, and in the long run this wasn't a biggie now that we know.

I wasn't mad at the GDC or trying to exploit anything, I just wanted to make sure we'd show up to the event and not be at a disadvantage. For not being able to do FIRST 24/7 of their lives, I think the GDC is doing a good job. I like how there is 10x more complaining being heard than praise to the GDC for substantially simplified rules.
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